Tips for shooting birds

JaYbIrD1969

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I felt bad about hijacking Nates thread on telephoto lenses with my birding blather. I thought it might be fun to start a thread to talk about the finer points of birding. I'll get it started with my 20 pesos. Would love to hear about some others experiences on where and how they are capturing nice bird images.

I know many of us are limited with our gear due to the expense of this hobby, so Id also love to know what gear you have been using, what you would like to acquire and what youd recommend. And most of all, how you may improvise on a budget

I was just re reading the other thread and saw Jesse talking about stealth. The majority of birds are near the bottom of the food chain. This fact alone makes them very wary and the fact that they fly makes them disappear completely in a nano second.

There are two schools of thought from birders Ive hung around with. Some are very mobile and like to look for birds. Some sit quietly for huge lengths of time and hope birds come. I like to do a little of both. However, far and away my best results have come from the patience strategy.

Its a good idea to go out with a plan. Strolling the landscape randomly with a tripod over your shoulder may stumble you into something good. you know what they say, even a blind pig finds an acorn from time to time. But your time is generally better spent quietly waiting in likely areas. A good example would be an area you regularly walk your dog, you almost always see a kingfisher in a certain area. This is a great spot to set up out of sight and wait for him to come into range. I talked about bird call apps for ipods in the other thread. This is a great time to use it.
Again, birds are wary AND smart. Don't just sit on a stump and queue up a bird call. If you can, get into a small grove of trees with a good view toward where you want to shoot. Pay attention to the orientation of the sun to accomplish the results you seek.
Your best tactic is to hunker next to natural structure (bushes, trees, high grass, etc) You don't need to be completely hidden, but you DO need to remain very still, so you must be comfortable. I cant tell you how many times my legs have started cramping from kneeling right at the worst possible time!

When your bird comes into view, don't get overzealous and start firing away. I like to remain totally still and watch it for a while first. Often the bird knows you are there but doesn't register you as dangerous if you are completely still. If you can, wear sun glasses. Your eyes can give away that you may be a predator. Many birds have spectacular vision. In most cases, you aren't trying to hide from them, but rather convince them you aren't a threat.

Areas with lots of human traffic, like public parks, can be the best places to get very close to birds as they are accustomed to people. Also, photographing from a car window can get you way closer than on foot.

Heres some shots out of the car window on a country road...








As I mentioned in the other thread, bird call apps can be a VERY effective way to get close to birds. Especially combining calling birds while in your car!

Several years ago, I discovered this website. http://ebird.org/ebird/GuideMe?src=...r=2014&eYear=2014&continue.x=67&continue.y=10

This site is invaluable for finding birds near you! Its like shopping! Looking for a specific species? Look on the site to see where members have been reporting specific species. Lots of people report their sightings and when you see several different people reporting a sighting in the same spot, its time for a road trip!

Heres just a couple example of birds I found relying on this website...

American Bittern


Whooping Cranes



Pileated Woodpecker



Cedar Waxwing



Barrows Goldeneye



Snowy Owl




Theres too many more to list!...
 
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In summary, the ultimate combination is to research the Ebird website to find where certain birds are being spotted near you. Drive there in your car. Hang your speaker out the window and start calling the birds. Some may feel this is cheating, but if youre new to birding, its a great way to get great results with mediocre gear without trying too hard. Once youre addicted, you may end up like us other bird junkies! Shouldering your tripod and heading off into the great beyond!

Another popular, yet controversial method is "baiting". I learned this quite by accident when I mortally injured a trout while flyfishing a high mountain lake. I had just gotten into shooting and had a cheap, entry level Nikon. The lake was full of little hatchery trout so I didn't feel too guilty about serving them to this amazing bird!

I do not recommend making a habit out of this technique, it can desensitize wild birds to human contact...






Birding is a great reason to get outside. Take a kid along and pass along your love for the outdoors and nature :)
 
Man, with material like what transpired in that thread, I'm happy to have threads highjacked! Got to learn about 2 topics in one rather good thread! :)
 
Great idea for a thread! Love the meadowlark photos especially, beautiful. :)

You covered a lot in your first post from gear to technique. One thing I might add is to remember about using calls, baiting, and/or approaching birds at a close distance is where you are - many state/provincial/national parks, conservation areas, and wildlife reserves prohibit the use of calls, baiting, or approaching wildlife within a certain distance (i.e. 50 meters). So make sure you are following the rules to respect the needs of the wildlife you are shooting.

Jaybird I think you have shown with many of your past photos you have posted that you can start in your own backyard and get amazing shots of birds that you can attract to your feeder. In addition to your feeder, it is pretty amazing what lurks around depending on the time of year, and what you have around to attract them. I like to keep my 7D handy at home with my 400 5.6 on it "just in case" something comes by. I leave a screen popped out at the back so in case something is in the yard, I can slowly open the window and get an unobstructed shot. Yard birds:

Carolina Wren
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American Goldfinch
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Female Ruby-Throated Hummingbird
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Cooper's Hawk
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Sharp-Shinned Hawk
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Typically, when out and about, I like to move around hiking and trying to get a shot, as I'm not much of a sit and wait person. That said, in the spring I plan on setting up a blind in my backyard and trying to get some nice shots of birds I can attract to feeders, perch etc.

I too like to shoot from a vehicle in the countryside, or even better, from my canoe. That said, 400mm IME is on the short end of shots I hope to get with this approach - it would be great to have a 500 f4 and then have at least a 1.4 TC to attach to it, but that is a significant investment. But with persistence, and patience, and using eBird and any local birding alert emailers/forums, you can increase your odds while out and about in the countryside.

Short-Eared Owl
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Snowy Owl
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Great Grey Owl
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Great post!! Just the kind of contribution I was hoping to see! Thanks for pointing out the restrictions of some techniques as I did not know they were illegal in places. I do know that approaching wildlife of any kind in some National Parks is prohibited.

You brought up a great point! Photographing from a canoe or kayak can be wonderful! All birds drink water and you never know what youll see come down to the waters edge. If you get that nice, low evening light that glows golden with a bird reflecting in the water, you'll have yourself a real bang up photo op!!

Extremely jealous of your owls btw!
 
great information - thanks for sharing. I've been fortunate enough to capture some decent shots over the years but I am excited to use some of what you guys have shared and try to up my game. I'll have to dig out some images to share but regarding what has been posted, "wow" - nice work!
 
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In summary, the ultimate combination is to research the Ebird website to find where certain birds are being spotted near you. Drive there in your car. Hang your speaker out the window and start calling the birds. Some may feel this is cheating, but if youre new to birding, its a great way to get great results with mediocre gear without trying too hard. Once youre addicted, you may end up like us other bird junkies! Shouldering your tripod and heading off into the great beyond!

Another popular, yet controversial method is "baiting". I learned this quite by accident when I mortally injured a trout while flyfishing a high mountain lake. I had just gotten into shooting and had a cheap, entry level Nikon. The lake was full of little hatchery trout so I didn't feel too guilty about serving them to this amazing bird!

I do not recommend making a habit out of this technique, it can desensitize wild birds to human contact...






Birding is a great reason to get outside. Take a kid along and pass along your love for the outdoors and nature :)

Nice shots! What setup are you using?
 
my tip as a total novice bird shooter, go where there is a known food source :).

Homer AK







My yard:

 
an old image of mine but someone managed to find recently resulting in a sale. Always nice when the hobby self contributes :). I did really like this image for all it's elements.



Driving home from Homer heard a lot of ruckus. Stumbled on this scene which was way cool. All happened very fast and i don't think I got many sharp images plus it was way far away. Was still cool to see though.

 
You guys have some beautiful owls. Anyway, I'm gonna stretch this a little. You saw some of my birds in the other thread. Because I'm not really just looking for birds, I'm looking for bugs first and always, and I'm also looking for the unexpected. Knowing most birds, they can be animals of habit. If you saw a great blue fishing in a river yesterday, you'll have a good chance of finding him there again if the fishing was good. Hence my ability to get 15 feet from this guy.



This guy was about the same.

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For the heron, I was laying on the ground when he landed. I couldn't move. I know if he did, he'd be gone. It took about 5 minutes to get myself ready for the shot. Got a few, but the flipping of the shutter got to him. Hawks are different. He just stood there. If I got any closer he would have left. He just stood there till I started walking away.

Keep your eyes open. Expect the unexpected. You never know what you'll find out there.

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Nice Beaver Jesse :). Sorry, I just had too.

What kind of snake? Was it in the wild?

Where there are bugs, there are birds. One of them often does not fair well ;).

 
Great shots guys! Jesse, I don't know what the hawks are smoking in your area, but they are among the hardest to get close to for me :)

Good point on keeping your eye out for ANY kind of photo op. I meant to mention this in my original post. Once I find a good location for shooting, I can keep busy photographing flowers, bugs, other birds or just scenery. This helps the monotony of waiting and sometimes you come away with your best shots of something else.

Here was an interesting situation a few winters ago. I was in my car shooting chickadees and woodpeckers feeding on some deer carcasses the DNR had placed here for scavengers...




...When this little fella peeked out of a hollowed out Carcass

 
What kind of snake? Was it in the wild?

Black rat snake. Yes, in the wild. I was photographing the snake. Never saw the rabbit till it tried to move. The snake knew. The rabbit made an attempt to move, the snake took him out, I pooped my pants!!! I thought the snake was jumping at me. I also screamed like a little girl.
 
Wow, some amazing Eagle shots IPT. And yes, nice beaver Jesse!

No one has really mentioned anything about settings for birds. I know with my Canon 7D for BIF, I try and use a fairly wide open aperture (almost exclusively 5.6), and as low as ISO as I can get away with while using a fast shutter speed (ISO 800 to 1600 max, shutter speed 1/1600 or higher). Shooting in high speed continuous and using AI Servo mode is a must.
 
Wow, some amazing Eagle shots IPT. And yes, nice beaver Jesse!

No one has really mentioned anything about settings for birds. I know with my Canon 7D for BIF, I try and use a fairly wide open aperture (almost exclusively 5.6), and as low as ISO as I can get away with while using a fast shutter speed (ISO 800 to 1600 max, shutter speed 1/1600 or higher). Shooting in high speed continuous and using AI Servo mode is a must.

I agree with you on your settings. Wide open aperture. Birds are almost always about shutter speed. I like to push the limits of ISO to get a decent shutter speed. Its a lot easier to clean up noise than a blurry image. But It varies by species. A great Blue Heron can be extremely still while hunting. and with a tripod, you can get away with a much slower click.
I used to always shoot birds in Aperture Priority. But more and more I use manual. I mentioned in another subject that I like to underexpose many of my images, but this can bite me when I have to make a quick decision in changing light.
 
This years shop is now open for business



Just built it yesterday and am already seeing some interested customers :) Hopefully over the next few months I'll record some lovely images from this location
 
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