Toadstool Toxic?

[Calappidae]

At my petco they had a small little toadstool leather coral for over a year (surprisingly its doing good under a 1 year old single atinic bulb...) It used to be 50 dollars but they lowered it to 29. I'm thinking about getting it and putting in my 10 gallon mini reef but I was wondering..

1: Is it toxic? Its says on live aquaria that leathers can give off toxins..
2: will it outgrow the 10 gallon?
3: will it harm any of my other invertebrates? (harlequin shrimp, pom pom crab, sexy shrimp, bumblebee shrimp, etc.)

Just asking from the stuff I've been reading.. I just heard the word "toxic" too many times on liveaquaria to make me want to cancel out on it..

There are zoanthids in there so are those toxic too? Or do these corals only release toxins on death like anems?

 

[alb_56]

In my experience most corals contain a certain level of toxins. I have a mixed reef and my toadstool has been doing great in it. At least I haven't noticed any problems related to the toadstool at all. As far as outgrowing a ten gallon tank, I would say that's very possible but one of the nice things about toadstools are that they are pretty tough creatures. When people frag them they just cut a ring off the head and it will grow back just fine. So if it did outgrow your tank you can just trim it up.

 

[Josh40996]

When damaged/fragged Toadstools will release toxins that may harm other corals. Simply running GAC will remove these toxins. Some Zoas are believed to release palytoxins when damaged, and so there is little to worry about with simple maintenance. However, you still need to be extremely cautious with them. Wearing gloves, eye protection and keeping your mouth closed when handling is mandatory.

The toadstool may outgrow your 10G but pruning or fragging him will keep him in check.

You have no reason to worry for the health of any of your livestock with the Toadstool

Happy reefin!

 

[Calappidae]

When damaged/fragged Toadstools will release toxins that may harm other corals. Simply running GAC will remove these toxins. Some Zoas are believed to release palytoxins when damaged, and so there is little to worry about with simple maintenance. However, you still need to be extremely cautious with them. Wearing gloves, eye protection and keeping your mouth closed when handling is mandatory.

The toadstool may outgrow your 10G but pruning or fragging him will keep him in check.

You have no reason to worry for the health of any of your livestock with the Toadstool

Happy reefin!

I had a zoanthid rock that had like 50 or more heads... only 5 remain... no harm done yet.

The tank has no sump or anything..

It just has a penquin bio-wheel 100 with carbon and a heater.. I'm trying to build a side refugium with my back-pak skimmer I got but I'm having some difficulties.

So basicly toadstool ONLY will harm other corals? and only when damaged, cut, fragged, etc.

 

[smtank]

I believe what your looking for is Allelopathy of Toadstools/Sacrophytons via Terpenes.


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2113011

 

[Calappidae]

I believe what your looking for is Allelopathy of Toadstools/Sacrophytons via Terpenes.


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2113011

I will never get a cucumber,
I will never get a sea hair
I will never get an anemone (unless BTA in my 125 gallon..)

I just don't want anything with the potiental of nuking my tanks and killing stuff or stinging. Thats what I'm worried about mainly.. Example, I didn't want my harlequin shrimp walking on top of the leather or dragging a starfish leg on it and next day everything is dead.. I lost a 55 gallon to 2 condylactus anemones before so I have a strong fear against these sort of things..

 

[Calappidae]

I just got mine today!

Its closed up, about 1 inch in diameter closed.. at the lfs, it had all these tiny little star polyp like tentacles popping out.

 

[rlm2005]

It looks fine, probably just getting used to your tank. They are really hardy. Has it opened up yet? Don't be surprised if you find it like that occasionally, they will do that.

 

[Calappidae]

It looks fine, probably just getting used to your tank. They are really hardy. Has it opened up yet? Don't be surprised if you find it like that occasionally, they will do that.

Shortly after the picture.. instead of standing tall.. it just leaned down to the ground like it was dying..

This morning however, it began slowly to raise back up to normal, and tiny little tubes are coming out.. but at the LFS the tubes looked just like star polyps and it was wider so it is still opening.

This speghetti worm at the bottom is getting really annoying... I have like 70 scattered around the rock.. any clue on how to get rid of them? I know they are Ben, but they are a huge distraction and not a good show peice.. They are all anchored into the rock so I can't catch them...

 

[wireefman]

toadstools like most leathers like a lot of flow as it helps remove the slime coat... I have all my toads within 6-8" of the powerheads and they never close up

 

[Calappidae]

Mine in right under the outtake of the power filter.


I'm going to move it to my 125 gallon when that gets setup. I'm converting the 10 gal into an SPS later on anyway :spin3:

Still hasn't opened completely. It stayed the same as seen in the photo.

Thanks to that photo I see a tiny little hydroid I never noticed before..

 

[wireefman]

is the filter the only flow? if so I highly recommend you add some sort of nano powerhead.. if it cant get the slime coat off it will never open

 

[Calappidae]

is the filter the only flow? if so I highly recommend you add some sort of nano powerhead.. if it cant get the slime coat off it will never open

Sadly, the inhabitants living in there can't handle too much flow and struggle from the filter alone... I even screened off the filter...

This is the main reason why I must move it up to my 125..

Its been sitting in a petco tank for the past year surrounded by dead and sick fish before I got it so it's doing pretty well I suspose..

 

[wireefman]

sadly the inhabitants come from the ocean where there is a heck of a lot more flow than the return of a powerfilter.... the inhabitants can take more flow... its the tank and dimensions that inhibit flow.. you need to find a way to get more flow inside this tank... especially since you plan on it being an sps tank eventually

 

[Calappidae]

sadly the inhabitants come from the ocean where there is a heck of a lot more flow than the return of a powerfilter.... the inhabitants can take more flow... its the tank and dimensions that inhibit flow.. you need to find a way to get more flow inside this tank... especially since you plan on it being an sps tank eventually

Whats the best powerhead for a 10 gallon housing harlequin shrimp that in the past, got sucked up a 20GPH filter a while back and the other pair got pushed against the side of the glass by a 200GPH powerhead?

 

[wireefman]

Get a Rio plus 50, 90, or 180... from 69gph to 120 gph... there are many options

 

[Calappidae]

Get a Rio plus 50, 90, or 180... from 69gph to 120 gph... there are many options

Anything smaller? Like magnetic pumps that low?

all my intakes have to be screened off... I'm also working on a refugium that will add some extra flow (these might be my return pumps!)