toby question

Though people have before, I don't recommend any of the tobies for reefs, simply due to the fact that their diets are far too cosmopolitan (at least for my tastes). Like many puffers, they make a little of anything and everything a part of their diet. Just out of curiosity, which Canthigaster species is commonly called an orange tailed toby? C. papua?
 
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I have been thinking about adding some sort of toby to my softie tank as well. It would be cool to hear from somebody that has tried putting one in a reef tank.
 
I have a Crown Saddle Puffer in my 55gal. mixed LPS,Softies, assorted zoas, mushrooms, gorganian, (I know I spelled it wrong),and a cleaner shrimp with no problems for about 8 months. :D.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8320727#post8320727 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bghost
I have a Crown Saddle Puffer in my 55gal. mixed LPS,Softies, assorted zoas, mushrooms, gorganian, (I know I spelled it wrong),and a cleaner shrimp with no problems for about 8 months. :D.

Like I said, I understand some people have luck. I am just not one to trust a fish with stomach contents this broad :D

Canthigaster amboinensis (similar to most Canthigaster, including C. solandri):

56.5% zoobenthos other benth. Invertebrates; other benth. Invertebrates; mixture of polychaetes, sea urchins, brittle stars, mollusks, tunicates, corals & sponges

43.5% plants other plants benthic algae/weeds

and another analysis (note that algae--namely corallines for wearing on teeth-- still plays a significant part of the diet of Canthigaster--so similar fare should be offered. Many people underestimate how much algae they eat):

60.6 plants other plants benthic algae/weeds n.a./others 42.5% coralline algae, 9.4% filamentous algae
9.1 zoobenthos mollusks bivalves juv./adults
9.0 zoobenthos cnidarians hard corals juv./adults
8.8 zoobenthos benth. crust. n.a./other benth. crustaceans juv./adults 7.3% Brachyura, 0.2%Gammaridean amphipods
8.5 zoobenthos echinoderms n.a./other echinoderms juv./adults 4.9% Ophiuroids incl. 2.4% Echinoids
1.5 zoobenthos sponges/tunicates sponges juv./adults
0.9 zoobenthos other benth. Invertebrates n.a./other benth. Invertebrates juv./adults 0.6% bryaozoans incl. 0.2% Foraminifera
0.7 zoobenthos mollusks gastropods juv./adults Prosobranch gastropods
0.6 zoobenthos worms non-annelids juv./adults 0.3% Sipunculids incl. 0.2% Sipunculids
0.4 zoobenthos sponges/tunicates ascidians juv./adults Didemnidae

Also be aware that the diet of these fishes will vary quite a bit from location to location. In some areas, these fishes may feed on one particular food source more heavily than in other areas.
 
That's is very true, tobies or any type of puffer has some risk vaule in a reef aquarium and can pretty much sample pretty much anything in a reef tank. I'm just one of the lucky ones that has a puffer that decided to behave. :D So I guess my advice about putting a puffer in reef aquarium is, if you think it's worth the risk than try it. I mean I wouldn't put a sharp nose puffer in a tank with feather dusters and very delicate inverts, but I do think you are pretty safe with noxious softies. Others may have a different experience.
 
i have a valentini in a 29 gal bio cube. that is set up as a reef. some zoo's few diferent types of mushrooms, toadstool, and im sure im forgeting some stuff. havent had any trouble yet. but these are just frags out of the main tank so if one day he decides to to have a feast its no big deal. hope this helps
 
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