Torts under Leds lets see em

[Prochef176]

 

[Prochef176]

Couple top down shots

 

[Stylaster]

Here are a few of mine. Im running four radion gen1 with tir lens and a kessil 350w. So far they have all had awesome color
cali


rainbow in upper right

 

[RFLKPTR]

Half the pics posted in here claimed as oregon torts are not.

Are you attempting to be helpful? You're inferring that half the people here are wrong in their identification. Teach us please. I see these sorts of additions from you on this forum quite a bit.

Thanks for clearing that up, Joe. I actually wandered into an LFS the other day and asked if it really was that hard to keep said SPS under LEDs. That exact thread/post by you was what I had read. :thumbsup:

OP. This thread has been quite helpful. Thanks for bringing this up!

 

[tdb320reef]

Leds

Leds

Cheap Ebay LEDs:

ORA Blue Tort

Yellow Tort

 

[tdb320reef]

That is true, but I think you need to add a slight caveat:




I may be the fella that was mentioned as having seen OBT not survive under LEDs. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that the local reefers that bought from me and had LEDs all lost their frags. Recent research on lighting and acroporas has shown that the wavelength of lighting can dramatically alter the mix and growth rate of zooxanthellea clades so it's not hard for me to believe that the deep blue color of this particular coral may be dependent on UVL Super Actinics or Radiums and other light sources will therefore change it's success and or color, BUT that is simply a theory I have based on personal experience and should NOT stop anyone from "doing their own thing" !


Just for reference here are two posts from another older thread on the lineage of OBT.

That is just amazing!

Ill buy a frag off of you and lets see if I can keep it alive. LMK Thanks.

 

[karsseboom]

Are you attempting to be helpful? You're inferring that half the people here are wrong in their identification. Teach us please. I see these sorts of additions from you on this forum quite a bit.

Thanks for clearing that up, Joe. I actually wandered into an LFS the other day and asked if it really was that hard to keep said SPS under LEDs. That exact thread/post by you was what I had read. :thumbsup:

OP. This thread has been quite helpful. Thanks for bringing this up!

No you see some other guy in different thread saying that and your parroting what he said genius.

Like Jp posted above most the torts people posting are not real oregon torts. I have seen many true oregon torts and most posted on forums are not. I would even doubt the Ora version as being a true linage. I also happen to know the people who first personally propagated the coral.

 

[animalkingdom]

I had an OBT that was the real deal under my leds. It did get some green to it, so it can happen. The source was a local halide guy that had a nice colony, you can look him up at Harrysfrags.com. He doesn't have the oregon on his website but he used to. The oregon and cali tort I got from him lived and grew under led's at least 6 months before a kalkwasser overdose took out most of my acros. Surprisingly the Alabama Tort I got from Harry survived, but did take a hit after a bout with STN. I will try to get a pic up of the alabama tort. I still have a nubin of the cali tort that hasn't grown since the kalk OD, but the oregon died completely. Trust me they can get green, and for those of you who are neigh sayers put them at 500par in a 50/50 RB/CW lit tank for a month or two and then you can talk.
Don't mean to be rude, but just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it can't happen.
Oh forgot to mention I recently acquired another frag of what appears to be cali tort, but dont know for sure, from a very large colony grown by a local under a 5ft Vertex LED fixture

 

[animalkingdom]

And btw JPMagyer your tank is one of my inspirations! I have always loved your mature colony look and aquascaping. Hopefully one day we will see a tank as nice as yours driven by LEDs

 

[Prochef176]

I never said it was a blue tort?? The thread title asks for pictures of torts, but never specified that they had to be Oregon Blue?

Kinda what I thought!

 

[CUNAReefer]

I had an OBT that was the real deal under my leds. It did get some green to it, so it can happen. The source was a local halide guy that had a nice colony, you can look him up at Harrysfrags.com. He doesn't have the oregon on his website but he used to. The oregon and cali tort I got from him lived and grew under led's at least 6 months before a kalkwasser overdose took out most of my acros. Surprisingly the Alabama Tort I got from Harry survived, but did take a hit after a bout with STN. I will try to get a pic up of the alabama tort. I still have a nubin of the cali tort that hasn't grown since the kalk OD, but the oregon died completely. Trust me they can get green, and for those of you who are neigh sayers put them at 500par in a 50/50 RB/CW lit tank for a month or two and then you can talk.
Don't mean to be rude, but just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it can't happen.
Oh forgot to mention I recently acquired another frag of what appears to be cali tort, but dont know for sure, from a very large colony grown by a local under a 5ft Vertex LED fixture

Good post, AK. Very helpful. James

 

[PeTe PoLyP]

I cannot say one way or another about if they can be kept under LED... But why is it every time a coral dies its because of the lighting? Sure you may have kept a coral for ten years under t5 and it dies six weeks after switching to LED... But there are more things to consider, maybe the corals werent acclimated to the light properly, maybe something else, who knows. I just find it odd that every time a coral dies its lights. I'm not being biased, the only LED over my tank are moonlights. I'm using t5, so I'm not trying to defend LED. It very well could be the cause of lots of lost coral, i have not seen any scientific proof of this so I won't just assume this is the reason they die.

 

[karsseboom]

I cannot say one way or another about if they can be kept under LED... But why is it every time a coral dies its because of the lighting? Sure you may have kept a coral for ten years under t5 and it dies six weeks after switching to LED... But there are more things to consider, maybe the corals werent acclimated to the light properly, maybe something else, who knows. I just find it odd that every time a coral dies its lights. I'm not being biased, the only LED over my tank are moonlights. I'm using t5, so I'm not trying to defend LED. It very well could be the cause of lots of lost coral, i have not seen any scientific proof of this so I won't just assume this is the reason they die.

To be honest I have seen a ton of torts under LEDs. This is not even a question if LEDs can grow torts because I have bought torts grown under LEDs and they look very rich in color. People just don't know how to ramp up there intensity the proper way and they bleach.

 

[trueblackpercula]

To be honest I have seen a ton of torts under LEDs. This is not even a question if LEDs can grow torts because I have bought torts grown under LEDs and they look very rich in color. People just don't know how to ramp up there intensity the proper way and they bleach.

This is a true statement I learned the had way like others. Had to lower my radion to acclimation mode for a four week period and all my sps are doing very nice. Getting super fast growth and some amazing color. I will post after the four week period....all I can tell sps reef keepers that switch from halides do not under estimate LEDs they are super powerfull even if you can't see it with the naked eye.
Thanks Again for a Great thread and soon I will post some pictures of my blueberry nasuta with purple blue polyps under LEDs thanks CUNA its amazing.

 

[Frick]

My Bennet Tortuosa in QT.


Same piece starting to color up.


And some frags I made later on.

 

[JPMagyar]

I just made the switch from a 400watt Radium halide to two Kessil A360Ws. I did not loose any color. Growth is right on track. It does get warm here in AZ but a small fan on my controller keeps the temp locked in at 77*F. I sold my chiller yesterday. The Kessil LED will be the closest look and spectrum you can get to a halide. They are the only aquarium LED company that does R&D over real coral while they develop their diode. So it is the only LED itself made specifically for reef aquariums. They haven't been out long enough to tell the long term success. I have been using Kessils (A150W switched to A350) on a work tank for about a year and half now and the corals have been doing very well.

I was a LED skeptic for years, and it would have taken a lot to pry my Radium Halide lamps from my hands. But Kessil has done it.

My Bennet Tortuosa in QT.

And some frags I made later on.

Jason,

Was that Tort in your "work tank" or under the tank you switched from Radium to Kessel? Either way how long has it been under LED and can you get either a whole tank shot with the lighting setup showing or better yet a quick iPhone video of your setup?

I've been desperately waiting for someone to have some success with deep blues under LEDs and you have the deepest blue coral I have ever seen under an LED so you definitely have my attention.

Also, what was the lighting when that last frag photo was taken? Is it pure LED?

Thanks a bunch,

Joe

 

[Frick]

Jason,

Was that Tort in your "work tank" or under the tank you switched from Radium to Kessel? Either way how long has it been under LED and can you get either a whole tank shot with the lighting setup showing or better yet a quick iPhone video of your setup?

I've been desperately waiting for someone to have some success with deep blues under LEDs and you have the deepest blue coral I have ever seen under an LED so you definitely have my attention.

Also, what was the lighting when that last frag photo was taken? Is it pure LED?

Thanks a bunch,

Joe

Duh, I should have mentioned my lighting story. LOL

The first pic is in QT (PCs), the second was the colony which lived a long time under the Radium 400watt. And the last pic was under the Kessil A350 in my 40g for a few months. I had alk issues in that end of last year and the colony you see here was wiped out from it but lives on in a friends tank which is now bigger than my original. Now my new duel 75 set up with two Kessil A360Ws should handle it. I have not been able to go over there and reclaim my Tort, but will soon.

My work tank i have not tried it in yet. It is only a 29 gallon and a mixed reef. I have the A350 tuned in at 30% on each color. So that won't be enough for the Tort. I would turn it up but everything that was already established would cook. I do have this A. cf. austera and Reverse Sunset Montipora that have developed blue/purple on the new growth in that tank.



Now in my 75g I just got a few SPS that should be Blue under the A360Ws. I have a unknown stag, A. spathuata, A. aspera, and a Blue millepora. So far things are looking well, improving in color. But the Bennet Tort (when i had it in my possession) seemed to respond well as long as the flow was good.

 

[i Tuna]

My apologies to the author of the post for going off topic a bit.

I don't have any torts in my reef, however I do use a combination of a Kessil A150 ocean blue + A350 over my 60 cube Sps reef. My blue's have done very well, in fact, blue and purple have been the two colors that have done the best in my setup.

My latest specs are as follow:
Ca: 490
Alk: 7.6 dkh
Mg: 1450
Nitrate: undetectable
PO4: undetectable

I'll upload pics of my monti's / a stag when I get home from work.

 

[Frick]

My apologies to the author of the post for going off topic a bit.
I'll upload pics of my monti's / a stag when I get home from work.

I would like to see some pics please.

I was at a LFS last night and they have a very large reef with two huge A. tortuosa colonies in it. The lighting it several Ecoexotic cannons. I was going to take some pics but then i found myself giving advise to a customer and talking to the employees. I will try to get some shots when i go in there this weekend, but they are perfect looking and completely raised under the cannons.

 

[karsseboom]

Jason,

Was that Tort in your "work tank" or under the tank you switched from Radium to Kessel? Either way how long has it been under LED and can you get either a whole tank shot with the lighting setup showing or better yet a quick iPhone video of your setup?

I've been desperately waiting for someone to have some success with deep blues under LEDs and you have the deepest blue coral I have ever seen under an LED so you definitely have my attention.

Also, what was the lighting when that last frag photo was taken? Is it pure LED?

Thanks a bunch,



Joe

If you looking for torts under LEDs there is a guy on our local forum who has some really good examples of what LEDs will do on tort and all sorts of different colors.

Here is a link to his build thread. Skim to the last pages to see what happening recently.


http://www.pnwmas.org/forums/showthread.php?28114-Reefnjunkie-s-400-gallon-inwall