Total System Levasole Planaria Kill Recipe
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CleveYank
20 Years and Over
Well, if it were anyone else I'd think you were just busting my chops. :beer:
And if it's a safe method for one it's worth the college try on other parasites too.
When doing my original hunt and peck for info on levasole for planaria, I did recall seeing some other posters in other forums that tried some levesole on the AEFW. Information that was vague but did mention some testing. Also, it was not told how much they dosed, but that it was not a viable solution. The detail didn't get much deeper than that.
AND, while having my coffee this early morn I realized I forgot a part of my reply. A hole if you will since I went into the concentration attempt from the monty nudis test.
The specific of making this trial to go after AEFW comes along in a round about way. As the beginning of the trial the setup which I ran at the concentration posted and dosed at 1ml in one setup and 1.5ml per gallon in another. The AEFW were present in the system which was dosed at the 1 ml per gallon. That was where my frag and 90 growout were attached that had SPS infested with AEFW. Since the little buggers survived that I can assume that the dosage even over the 4 weeks at the concentration and the 1ml per gallon was not enough since again it was not until I used a modified version of your betadyne recipe posted (from your website if I recall) that I kicked the AEFW.
And as part of my new coral acclimation I do revive, levasole, interceptor and betadyne with heavy inspection. If the revive does not get the AEFW's attention the betadyne quick dip and baste and then rinse ASAP does the trick. Since adopting this step by step and lenghty pre-treat of all incoming livestock I've not had any issue. The sad part is this scorched earth policy voids any chance for good critters to come in as well.
Ok I think the horse is clear of any death throws...for now.
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melev
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I've had AEFW in my tank on and off for years, and they've made a resurgence recently. I'm using a MJ 1200 to blow off each coral daily to keep them from breeding. Using RO water on the coral is another method Joe Yaiullo is using, and I've tried it. It works, but is a little more trouble compared to the powerhead method.
I always treat, dip, and inspect all new arrivals, but the pests were already in my reef and have waxed and waned over the years.
I've had AEFW in my tank on and off for years, and they've made a resurgence recently. I'm using a MJ 1200 to blow off each coral daily to keep them from breeding. Using RO water on the coral is another method Joe Yaiullo is using, and I've tried it. It works, but is a little more trouble compared to the powerhead method.
I always treat, dip, and inspect all new arrivals, but the pests were already in my reef and have waxed and waned over the years.
Algae Growwer
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I just moved. My tanks have been back up for little over a month.Was looking in the sump for no reason when I saw them bastards on the glass .Had them once before about 5 years ago in my first reef tank used FWE and near about killed everything in the tank.You really don't how many worms are in the rocks till they are dieing and floating across the bottom.Don't see any in the display at this point but i'm sure they are there.Going to try the Dewormer .Thank you for this thread this place is the best!!!!
inkmaker
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According to Cleve Yank's work and calculations from the 20.1 gram package of Levamisole Hydrochloride he used for treatment, 5 grams treats 200 gallons of salt water without too much affect on the fish and invertebrates as long as it is not left for more than 3 days in the water. This means changing the water and lots of Charcoal filtration to remove the Levamisole.
Cleve Yank did the basic work to discover the treatment dosage without killing most of the fish and invertebrates. Kudos to Cleve:dance:
I hope I can help with source of the medication.
Charles H
Cleve Yank did the basic work to discover the treatment dosage without killing most of the fish and invertebrates. Kudos to Cleve:dance:
I hope I can help with source of the medication.
Charles H
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CleveYank
20 Years and Over
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I got rid of them!
I got rid of them!
I bought the Levasole and treated my 90 which has been plagued with the pests for years. I followed directions somewhere in the post and then sat back and watched the pests die. Oh how satisfying that is!
I siphoned as many dead worms as I could out, did a 10 gallon waterchange and then added carbon and that was it.
I don't currently have any fish in the tank but the inverts and corals didn't miss a beat. I sure wish I had done this earlier.
Just thought I'd share my story....
Carolyn
I got rid of them!
I bought the Levasole and treated my 90 which has been plagued with the pests for years. I followed directions somewhere in the post and then sat back and watched the pests die. Oh how satisfying that is!
I siphoned as many dead worms as I could out, did a 10 gallon waterchange and then added carbon and that was it.
I don't currently have any fish in the tank but the inverts and corals didn't miss a beat. I sure wish I had done this earlier.
Just thought I'd share my story....
Carolyn
Hi all, just a quick hello from australia.
Not sure if anyone else from down here has attempted this treatment (I have read a fair bit of the thread and haven't come across any)
I came across this thread when I had my first outbreak of flatworms, but ended up doing the salifert FW exit treatment.
It seamed to work fine, but after not retreating about 6 months later they all returned, and this time round there didn't appear to be any Exit available in Australia. And at $40 per bottle that treats about 400G I was going to go broke very quickly if I kept that up.
I searched and found a supplier of close to pure levamisole hydrochloride and went about reading and rereading everyones dosage and experience.
After a lot of working out, I guessed (hoped) that using the pure levamisole, it was about 1 teaspoon per 200G of water, and tried that.
I did a quick isolated test in my sump, where the majority of worms lived and the outbreak started this time.
The worms took a while to die but all did. I am guessing this might have been because of the low flow.
Now I think I was a little on the high side of dosage, but it seamed to knock them on the head within seconds, and didn't pollute the tank that much.
All other livestock survived and all the SPS had extended polyps that night.
I let the tank side for about 12 hours after the full system dose, and did a 1/3 water change.
Just retreated tonight (fingers crossed), which is about 4 weeks from the original dose. Maybe a little late but I will repeat it probably every two weeks from now on. (anyone know the life cycles of these worms)
I did id some FW when I treated the tank this time round, so there were either eggs or some survived.
The ones I saw were very very small, barely visible, but I could tell they were FW.
Thanks again to everyone in this thread. You are all pioneers and I am grateful for the testing and work you have all put in.
Not sure if anyone else from down here has attempted this treatment (I have read a fair bit of the thread and haven't come across any)
I came across this thread when I had my first outbreak of flatworms, but ended up doing the salifert FW exit treatment.
It seamed to work fine, but after not retreating about 6 months later they all returned, and this time round there didn't appear to be any Exit available in Australia. And at $40 per bottle that treats about 400G I was going to go broke very quickly if I kept that up.
I searched and found a supplier of close to pure levamisole hydrochloride and went about reading and rereading everyones dosage and experience.
After a lot of working out, I guessed (hoped) that using the pure levamisole, it was about 1 teaspoon per 200G of water, and tried that.
I did a quick isolated test in my sump, where the majority of worms lived and the outbreak started this time.
The worms took a while to die but all did. I am guessing this might have been because of the low flow.
Now I think I was a little on the high side of dosage, but it seamed to knock them on the head within seconds, and didn't pollute the tank that much.
All other livestock survived and all the SPS had extended polyps that night.
I let the tank side for about 12 hours after the full system dose, and did a 1/3 water change.
Just retreated tonight (fingers crossed), which is about 4 weeks from the original dose. Maybe a little late but I will repeat it probably every two weeks from now on. (anyone know the life cycles of these worms)
I did id some FW when I treated the tank this time round, so there were either eggs or some survived.
The ones I saw were very very small, barely visible, but I could tell they were FW.
Thanks again to everyone in this thread. You are all pioneers and I am grateful for the testing and work you have all put in.
CleveYank
20 Years and Over
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knockout
Really Cool Stuff!
Got my shipment in from Charles, very fast, my tank is 300g total capacity, I purchased 6 5 gram packs, per the instructions of 5gram per 200 gallon I should be using 7.5 grams,
I've read the entire thread twice now...
It "appears" that if not enough chemical is use the worms can develop resistance to it, so will it be wise to add smaller doses of levamisole after each water change? and a 2nd full dose again in 24 hours, 7 days, 14 days, provided the inhabitants do not show abnormal distress 2nd and subsequent dose should not require additional water changes
Prep work in progress...
A. I am planning on having about a 100 gallons of freshly made saltwater on hand for the first kill off, resuming normal changes after that (20g per week)
B. Water changes will begin 2 hours after initial dose and continue at a rate of 20 gallons water change every two hours
C. 2 PhosBan Reactors Fully stacked with Carbon, first reactor will start after two hours of treatment, sooner if I notice adverse effect of fish, 2nd reactor online 12 hours later
D. I will use my fish as a indicator of stress, if any ill signs are shown at any given time I will proceed by doing a massive water change
E. Will begin treatment on this coming Wednesday first thing in AM since I'll be home all day and can monitor
Please advise if missing anything or if there is something else I should consider.
Thanks,
Kelvin
I've read the entire thread twice now...
It "appears" that if not enough chemical is use the worms can develop resistance to it, so will it be wise to add smaller doses of levamisole after each water change? and a 2nd full dose again in 24 hours, 7 days, 14 days, provided the inhabitants do not show abnormal distress 2nd and subsequent dose should not require additional water changes
Prep work in progress...
A. I am planning on having about a 100 gallons of freshly made saltwater on hand for the first kill off, resuming normal changes after that (20g per week)
B. Water changes will begin 2 hours after initial dose and continue at a rate of 20 gallons water change every two hours
C. 2 PhosBan Reactors Fully stacked with Carbon, first reactor will start after two hours of treatment, sooner if I notice adverse effect of fish, 2nd reactor online 12 hours later
D. I will use my fish as a indicator of stress, if any ill signs are shown at any given time I will proceed by doing a massive water change
E. Will begin treatment on this coming Wednesday first thing in AM since I'll be home all day and can monitor
Please advise if missing anything or if there is something else I should consider.
Thanks,
Kelvin
inkmaker
New member
5 grams treats 200 gallons twice
5 grams treats 200 gallons twice
5 grams of Levamisole is intended to correspond to the treatment KleveYank used in his treatment method to treat 200 gallons (completely) i.e. twice. So, dissolve that 5 grams in 2 cups or 2 what ever measure and use 1/2 of it for a single treatment to 200 gallons. Look back on page 11 - post #256 and around those. Everything else seems just fine - Others chime in . . . .
Charles H
5 grams treats 200 gallons twice
5 grams of Levamisole is intended to correspond to the treatment KleveYank used in his treatment method to treat 200 gallons (completely) i.e. twice. So, dissolve that 5 grams in 2 cups or 2 what ever measure and use 1/2 of it for a single treatment to 200 gallons. Look back on page 11 - post #256 and around those. Everything else seems just fine - Others chime in . . . .
Charles H
lost in it all
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This evening I just treated my 270 total water 325 with stuff from charles and used a little less then the five gram packet as five grams appears to be about 1 1/8 tsp. I treated at the 1.5 ml per gallon because mixing 480 ml of solution made it simple just one tsp. What it looks like so far as that 1.5 ml was plenty to kill any visible bugs it did effect my LPS some most of the acans are well closed but don't appear to be dead, just stressed.
PS. Inkmaker you may want to change your instructions your post have become confusing with the multiple amounts. make your package read "treats approximately 330 gallons to 508 gallons" At least that is what I came up with for numbers. If I am wrong someone correct me.
PS. Inkmaker you may want to change your instructions your post have become confusing with the multiple amounts. make your package read "treats approximately 330 gallons to 508 gallons" At least that is what I came up with for numbers. If I am wrong someone correct me.
inkmaker
New member
Yes, you are right. Seems to be some confusion,
It should be made clear that 5 grams of Levamisole HCl powder is intended to treat approximately 400 gallons once. Look back on page 11 - post #256 and around those.
Charles H
It should be made clear that 5 grams of Levamisole HCl powder is intended to treat approximately 400 gallons once. Look back on page 11 - post #256 and around those.
Charles H
inkmaker
New member
And now after over night, how are the fish, etc.?
knockout
Really Cool Stuff!
after the treatment all fish seemed very sluggish except for the trigger he stayed swimming as nothing ever hit him... all the tangs and anthias went into hiding, I saw a couple of snails bite the dust but must were ok, shrimps were ok, feather dusters hiding, I changed about 80g of water and fish became a little more active but very timid, usually they all follow me wherever I go instead they will hide...
last night there was more activity, still sluggish but def a lot more activity and eating, anthias will only dart in and out of the rocks, but all other fish were swimming around
corals did not show any sign of discontent, zoas acans acros frogspawn brains etc all were wide open thru the whole process
this stuff seems to be very potent, I will venture to say that after only 50ml on my 300g most worms were dead or dieing, I continued to add 50ml every 20 min until I reached 300ml
there were no visible flatworms as of last night, will report again when I get home from work tonight, also have to check and account for livestock
