toughest tang?

[CedzAquAddictio]

Got it. I've learned that the more I prevent in QT, the less I have to do to my DT. If monitoring for a couple more weeks will decrease my chances of introducing disease to my DT, it's a small investment for a fish I will be keeping for the duration of it's life...

Thanks...

 

[humaguy]

ime/imo, the longer the qt process the higher the chance of having a healthy dt...

 

[CenterConsole]

I am not against QT at all, I think it's a must, but ich is in every tank. You'll never get rid of it completely. It just doesn't show in some people's tanks because of good husbandry skills and low stress levels.

To the OP, purple tang gets my vote for being hardy and for your tank size. But I would not recommend one without QT first.

 

[Rea17]

Hate to be that person, but ich is NOT in every tank. It can be kept out by following very simple quarantine procedures, and it is one of the easiest things to prevent getting into the display.

If ich makes it in, it is because you put it there.

 

[CedzAquAddictio]

 

[MrTuskfish]

I am not against QT at all, I think it's a must, but ich is in every tank. You'll never get rid of it completely. It just doesn't show in some people's tanks because of good husbandry skills and low stress level.

Do you have a source for this statement? My DTs are ich-free and I'll bet the farm that several posters on this thread have ich-free tanks as well. It is not difficult to have an ich-free tank and purely anecdotal statements, like this, just encourage those who don't want to take the effort to eliminate, rather than "manage" ich.

 

[DerekFF]

Do you have a source for this statement? My DTs are ich-free and I'll bet the farm that several posters on this thread have ich-free tanks as well. It is not difficult to have an ich-free tank and purely anecdotal statements, like this, just encourage those who don't want to take the effort to eliminate, rather than "manage" ich.

+1 it's not common, but it's very easily doable to have ich free tanks with a thorough QT. patience is what most people lack here

 

[Moort82]

Avoiding the whole qt minefield. My choice of tang for your system wouldn't be a bristletooth like the kole suggested as you mention a Starry blenny and these can be a tricky mix.

 

[MrTuskfish]

no complacency here... "after run thru a solid qt protocol most fish are very solid"...I got the impression no qt was used and the op refuses to run fallow ...ime, threads like this have the habit of disintegrating into a qt vs no qt debate...

the best possible thing anyone can do to help ensure a healthy and optimal environment for their livestock is to qt it, period...
qt, qt, qt....

I could have done a better job wording my first post. Hence the wording in my 2nd post above. You're right about the constant ich/QT content. I'm guilty and will try to avoid constantly tossing in a QT comment; unless it directly involves the OP's thread. Of course, I will be the sole judge of when the QT bomb is dropped. :lmao:

Just an aside. My good friend, helper, New American, Father of two Officers in our Armed Forces, and top-notch hobbyist; is leaning over my shoulder. He makes my ich & QT comments seem bland. His English as a 2nd language skills are great---but I still can't translate and post everything he says. Most comments start out "Eeeediot!!!!"

 

[Dmorty217]

Ich is cause entirely by user error

 

[Megatrev62]

I think the thread got lost here. He was looking for a hardy tang, so why not answer the question. To the OP, stay away from achilles and tangs that get huge basically. Some of the hardier tangs are also some of the largest unfortunately.

Just my opinion ofcourse.

 

[MrTuskfish]

I think the thread got lost here. He was looking for a hardy tang, so why not answer the question. To the OP, stay away from achilles and tangs that get huge basically. Some of the hardier tangs are also some of the largest unfortunately.

Just my opinion ofcourse.

Maybe beating a dead horse; but no new tang is hardy in a tank that's known to have ich. Not really much different than "what's the hardiest tang in a 20 gal. tank"?

 

[loup]

Exactly ...

Maybe beating a dead horse; but no new tang is hardy in a tank that's known to have ich. Not really much different than "what's the hardiest tang in a 20 gal. tank"?

 

[PatmanM3]

My bro had a 400 gallon tank that was all tangs ranging in size from 3in to a foot and a half that were properly qt'd. Got devastated by ich and marine velvet .....all perished in 2 days in emergency qt. Barely clinging to life were my sohal and his 3' purple tang.....we quarantined them for 6 months and followed proper medication treatment. Both are now gluttons and happy......

So in our experience I would go for a purple tang....... Even tho yes, they are aggressive.....

 

[Megatrev62]

I think some tangs are easier than others.

 

[Dmorty217]

To the OP, either tear down your tank and properly exterminate the ich already present in the tank or leave it fish less for 9 weeks and then you will be 99.6% sure the ich is gone. Don't add a tang or any fish for that matter until you deal with the current ich issue

 

[EllieSuz]

What if I asked the question, "What's a tough breed of puppy to buy? I want to put it in a kennel full of sick dogs without giving it any vaccinations." All of a sudden it presents a different perspective, doesn't it? We capture these fish from their natural environment and make them live in a little glass box. Don't we have some responsibility to treat them as responsibly as possible?

 

[likefish]

What if I asked the question, "What's a tough breed of puppy to buy? I want to put it in a kennel full of sick dogs without giving it any vaccinations." All of a sudden it presents a different perspective, doesn't it? We capture these fish from their natural environment and make them live in a little glass box. Don't we have some responsibility to treat them as responsibly as possible?

DO you know of such a puppy? Vaccinations are expensive! :hmm3:

I have researched this topic EXTENSIVELY! and have made my own decision. The op was a question of what is the heartiest / toughest tang. Not because i intend to train this tang for cage-fighting but because i would like to avoid those species that are "fragile".

I am in the process of stocking this system with SPS frags from MANY different systems. My main source is an SPS tank that was a previous RC TOTM. This system contains ich. On occasion a blue hippo tank in that system will show a spot or two that fades quickly. The owner of this tank/tanks through his mentoring has convinced me that by keeping my tank stable, within parameters and providing a well rounded/complete diet to the appropriately chosen species for a tank can and will maintain there natural immunity to this naturally occurring pest.

I have chosen to take adopt this train of thought.

Thank you for the info and opinions. My newly added yellow tang is fat and happy and grazing away.

 

[humaguy]

are you qt the frags you add?

 

[likefish]

are you qt the frags you add?

not for longer than a few hours, and there lies the problem.

The likelihood of me bringing something else into the system exists through frags. I have a 3 step dip process that i use after acclimation. Then they go in. i do not tave the space or $$ to establish a separate, dedicated frag QT system where i can maintain lighting, water quality and flow.