Treat a healthy looking fish with no symptoms

[jtaylor1101]

Here's the deal, I have some sort of bacteria or parasite in my tank. Based on suggestions from these forms I think it's either velvet or brooklynella. There is a clownfish in there who I'm going to remove and treat. There is also a scooter Dragonette who eats. Swims. Breathes and eats some more just fine and is happy as can be. I'm told he can still be hosting the parasite though so what would be the recommended way of treating him with the lowes chance of harming a seemingly healthy fish?

 

[ThRoewer]

All fish need to be treated!

TTM with formalin and freshwater dips during the transfers would be my treatment of choice for brook and velvet (and of course it gets rid of ich too).
To be really sure you can also dose the tanks with NLS Ich-Shield (which is Chloroquine phosphate).

On the scooter as a scaleless fish I would probably skip the formalin or cut the dose in half. Though freshwater dips are likely enough to clean him up.

Further reading:
Amyloodinium ocellatum (Marine Velvet)
Identifying Parasitic Diseases in Marine Aquarium Fish

 

[JoelA7]

Plus fallow the DT.

 

[jtaylor1101]

Will do thanks!!

 

[jtaylor1101]

What is ttm by the way

 

[snorvich]

What is ttm by the way

Tank Transfer Method.

 

[jtaylor1101]

Ok I like that option. Seems more humane to me. Can you define re established as it's used in the article and what's the method for transferring without nets

 

[snorvich]

Ok I like that option. Seems more humane to me. Can you define re established as it's used in the article and what's the method for transferring without nets

Many/most people use colanders.

 

[ThRoewer]

A deep, square or rectangular food storage container is also a good choice to catch fish.
Back in Germany I used a Fangglocke but here in the US I couldn't find one so far.

 

[jtaylor1101]

how come when you ask two questions only one ever gets answered. Is that a reef central policy or something?

 

[snorvich]

how come when you ask two questions only one ever gets answered. Is that a reef central policy or something?

Hardly. Making the question clear and understandable is likely to facilitate getting an answer, however.

 

[jtaylor1101]

More of an unwritten rule then I guess.

 

[jtaylor1101]

I'm just joking thank you guys for all the help!!!

 

[snorvich]

I'm just joking thank you guys for all the help!!!

Joking is not always discernible as such. "Attitude" is pretty much always just ignored.

 

[Dmorty217]

Joking is not always discernible as such. "Attitude" is pretty much always just ignored.

This

 

[jtaylor1101]

Roger that. Let me pick your brain on this for a min. Why is it ok to put a fish in a tank without any bio filter at all and simply watch the parameters to quarantine him for a month or two. But adding a few fish into a tank with a bio filter that is a few months old and watching the same parameters is considered "moving too fast"

 

[ThRoewer]

Well, it seems you haven't fully grasped the concept of quarantine yet.
The idea is to make sure a fish doesn't have infectious diseases or parasites he can spread before you put him into your DT.

As for a biologically active filter in the QT - of course you need one there, though a simple sponge filter, with or without activated carbon, should be enough.
I would also always put a protein skimmer into the QT.

Now a HT is a different story. Here the medication may kill the bacteria so a bio filter may make no sense. Also activated carbon or skimmers may have to be taken out because they would remove the medication.
In those cases you may need to do more water changes.

 

[jtaylor1101]

No I have grasped the concept. I was asking a totally seperate question. Maybe I should have started a different thread or post or whatever. Thanks for the help I put the fish in a hospital tank and am going to try the ttm. Hopefully they make it through they both look healthy now so Im feeling pretty good about it.

Seperate question. Once my newly purchased fish have been put in my qt what exactly am I looking for. It seems like fish can host parasites and appear to be perfectly healthy. How do I know they are safe to put in the DT?