Treating Cyano w/SPS

ERICinFL

Rejisturd Mimbur
I've treated Cyano bacteria once before, but I didn't have SPS corals or a clam. I used Red Slime Remover and only used half the recommended dose. The Cyano was gone in about two days. Is it safe to use Red Slime Remover in my tank, or will it kill the beneficial bacteria in these animals?
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

dont fricking put that **** in your tank....here is my proof...i have plenty of other proof but if this aint enough then just stick it in your tank...but dont come back with a new thread complaining....its a BAD IDEA...VERY BAD.....IT WILL KILL BACTERIA IF NOT MANY OTHER THINGS

read it...read my posts...oh man that stuff is a 50/50 and you dont want to be that 50...

IMO/my theory i think it is primarily ethromycin

heres a link to a tank that crashed::>>>

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=7730448#post7730448

DONT DO IT
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

dont fricking put that **** in your tank....here is my proof...i have plenty of other proof but if this aint enough then just stick it in your tank...but dont come back with a new thread complaining....its a BAD IDEA...VERY BAD.....IT WILL KILL BACTERIA IF NOT MANY OTHER THINGS

read it...read my posts...oh man that stuff is a 50/50 and you dont want to be that 50...

IMO/my theory i think it is primarily ethromycin

heres a link to a tank that crashed::>>>

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=7730448#post7730448

DONT DO IT


MY ADVICE TO FIGHT CYANO---get your nitrates down via WC"s(without swing ALK)..other options include fuge, dsb, chaeto...or go BB if your not already...keep up on your maintenance...YOU WANT LOTS OF FLOW CYANO DONT LIKE FLOW....

and run a GFO in a TLF Phosban reactor...my cyano disappeared after it reappeared after moving my tank into a new house
 
Since the cyanobacteria phylum contains gram-negative bacteria, I would imagine the easiest and most effective treatment being antibiotics that are effective only against gram-negatives.

Trouble is, many of the so called beneficial bacteria in our tanks are also gram-negative.
 
Correct me if im wrong but isnt red slime remover and chemi clean potassium permaganate. Not erythromycin. Ive used red slime remover with no problems. But increase the flow and it will go by by.
 
there is no way to no what is actually in chemi clean without contacting the company...and even then you have to take their word for it....no regulations in the hobby industry
 
Thanks all, I appreciate the info. I just did a 25gal water change, so I'm hoping that'll help. I think I waited an extra week to do my water change (I usually do 20gal every two weeks) so I may have let it go three weeks, I forgot to mark my calander. I may do another small WC next weekend (10gal) and then resume my regular schedule.
 
My opinion is never use chemicals in a reef tank you will regret it.

To get rid of Cyno, I did the following:

1. Increase protein skimming - Get a larger unit if you have to.
2. Increase water circulation - Tunze Stream
3. Look into adding a refugium.
4. Cease adding trace elements or cut them down. Too much iron will result in Cyno.
5. Dose Kalk keeping pH above 8.1 especially @ night
6. Clean up crew - Red legged hermit crabs etc

Try and syphon out as much as possible and keep parameters stable. To many water changes will upset the chemical balance so just keep to your usual regime (10-25% monthy).

You will notice a gradual reduction over about 2 weeks after increasing the protien skimming alone.

Good luck... it worked for me :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8394309#post8394309 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by onehundred20
check your params, fix the problem instead of using something to kill it :)

Exactly. Fix the problem, not the symptom.


More flow, more skimming;.
 
I used chemi-clean with not problems took about 2 - 3 days to clear and then a 25% water change, no problems with any of my SPS, LPS, clams and softies. Just read the intrusctions and add air stones since you can't use the skimmer.
 
cristhiam.....you know you are giving bad advice...hey eric how about this......if you use chemi clean on an SPS tank ....let me know so we can all come pee in it!!!!!!


im just kidding you....cristhiam you were "treating a symtpom, but not curing the cause"

i agree with all those things said above but GET A GFO
 
I know, but I did tried the other way, the natural way, less feeding, skimming wet, my ph is from 8 - 8.4 I dose kalk 24/7, water changes, I do have a clean up crew, blue legs, tubo snals, nassarious snails, I just got tired of looking ugly so I did it. It's gone now, I will post if it comes back to see how long it last. :) anyway it worked
 
I used chemiclean on my sps tank and I had no problems. I did have one staghorn acro lose some tissue around its base, but I was also working on getting my alkalinity right. After that was corrected, the polyps went from brown to dark green, but never regrew tissue (though the area where the tissue was absent was being shaded).

However, after saying this, I had a coworker use the stuff a week ago, and he lost two fish, his snails looked like they were going to die and all his corals closed up. He has predominantly LPS along with Xenia and zoanthids, plus some anemones. He did a few major water changes, and things are looking up.

I guess it is up to you. He used half dosage. I used normal dosage, and retreated a week later. Both of us turned off our skimmers and ran airstones, but my tank has no fish and is open top if that makes a difference. I read another post where Chemiclean is supposed to be an "oxidizer" instead of an antibiotic.
 
In my opinion, using chemiclean or any of those things to clean up cyano is just putting a temporary patch on the problem.

Better to attack the cause rather than just using a temporary treatment. Anything that cleans-up cyano that quickly cannot be a safe thing for your tank. Just my $0.02 on the subject...
 
I have been fighting it for several months now. I will not be using any type of chemicals.

I have went WAY overboard on my skimmer, increased the flow and checked for nitrates. It is still there. I guess for me, all that is left is phosphates. I have been running a little phosban, but might look into the salifert stuff.

I usually siphon it out periodically, but have let it go lately and a complete section of sandbed lifted up and was floating around the tank like a magic carpet. Luckily, I was watching the tank and got it out with a net before it got hammered my some flow.
 
I used Chemi-clean 2 months ago and it wiped out my acro, monti, clam
and hammer coral. It happen in less that 24 hours. It also stunned the ricordia, xenia, zoo's and sinularia. I couldn't believe how quickly it happened. 2 year old tank wiped out in 24 hours. When I contacted the manufacturer of chemi-clean they took no responsibility. The lfs has been very helpfull in helping me re-stock my tank. I definately won't be using a chemical next time.
 
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