Caleb Kruse
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This is cool that you are using vitamin c for help with zoo's. Last year I looked into how much vitamin c helps soft corals after fragging. Here is all my datat and research http://www.calebkruse.com/Science Fair.html
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Pufferpunk
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No data/research at that link, that I can see. Would be really cool to read!
jdieck
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Caleb, great experiment. It is really strange that during your reasearch you did not seem to have found Thiel's article about the application of the vitamin.
Good Work. It is really sad the little help you got from established pet stores but I am sure if you had contacted some aquarists in your area you could have got more help.
In any case good work and congratulations!
Good Work. It is really sad the little help you got from established pet stores but I am sure if you had contacted some aquarists in your area you could have got more help.
In any case good work and congratulations!
The article I read was not exactly the same as what was posted on page 24 (or so)? Mine had a multiple by 3.XXX then by the concentration... so I'm positive I was dosing 4x too much (8000mg on a 56G). pH shot through the roof (almost to 8.6) and dKH to 15. Odd that happened considering C is supposed to lower these.
Did large water changes 2 days in a row. Several SPS are bleaching, some small Xenia have melted (larger ones are hanging in there), mushrooms have shrank/closed up, and zoa's are OK but primarily closed up. Horrible things.
Stopped dosing VC and now adding seltzer to bring pH and dKH back to a reasonable level.
Think I'll try again once I clear this up using a much lower dose, and much more gradual than the article recommends. Especailly since I have about $500 - $1k in corals wasting away.
Did large water changes 2 days in a row. Several SPS are bleaching, some small Xenia have melted (larger ones are hanging in there), mushrooms have shrank/closed up, and zoa's are OK but primarily closed up. Horrible things.
Stopped dosing VC and now adding seltzer to bring pH and dKH back to a reasonable level.
Think I'll try again once I clear this up using a much lower dose, and much more gradual than the article recommends. Especailly since I have about $500 - $1k in corals wasting away.
That is really odd TK3 that it raised it. In my 225 the 2000 mg twice a day im at so far (end point 12500 daily target at 50 mg/g)is dropping my dkh a little over a point each dose. I dont measure ph(even though jdieck told me i should be LOL)
good luck with getting your stuff back in check. which C were you using??
good luck with getting your stuff back in check. which C were you using??
trueblackpercula
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Ok does anyone have before and after Pictures? Also i think this is a great thread and someone should post there resluts. I have been think about trying it but there are NO All sps lovers trying it yet. I do not want to be the one how takes the risk in killing my Sps due to low PH. I do think its great idea for Zoanthids and otrher soft corals i just do not see how SPs will benifit from Vitamin C.
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Michael A Iezza
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Pufferpunk
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If you dose with the pure, buffered C, you should have no pH/KH issues. C will not raise your pH/KH. It must be something in the pill.
Vinnie71975
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http://www.swansonvitamins.com/weba...51&SourceCode=INTL070&productId=17935&R=28589
what do you guys think of this find!
what do you guys think of this find!
Pufferpunk
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Nice & pure but it's not buffered. It's gonna mess with your pH. If you drip kalk, it should be fine, you'll just have to adjust your kalk.
Vinnie71975
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Ya my PH runs High anyway( i dose Kalk 1 cup at a time i have no dripper lol) so no worries i just ordered 2 lbs i just couldn't get Over putting all those fillers in my tank considering the doses i did add made my skimmer go so crazy it was needing dumped every 5 mins and it was nothing but water so ya i needed something more pure.
I bought the same C you're using.
The only thing I can think, is I added a little bit of Kent Buffer because my dKH was around 9. I wanted it a tad higher (around 10) but something must have gone awry. I've done this a lot in the past without problems but maybe it's just coincidental that I just started the C because it seems lik everyone else is having great results.
Just tested my dKH 30 mins ago, and it's so high the sample doesn't change colors. pH is around 8.49. UGH.
Vinnie71975
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Not to Hijack the thread but i have a question about kalk as top off water. Is this done by dripping Kalk or by mixing at a lower amount of Kalk to water then just dumped in like plain top off water? I use Mrs. Wedges to make up my lime water and i use about 3 teaspoons per gallon of water is this right? How do you dose lime water as a top off? detailed instructions please
montanabay
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I love this thread and have been doing some research on why VC might be helping these corals. So ascorbic acid is a very power water soluble antioxidant.
My first hypothesis:
We all start off with healthy tanks, keep adding corals, they keep growing but soon we might reach a "carrying" capacity of sorts in the tank. Natures way for corals to deal with this is chemical warfare. I think V-C's antioxidant properties are helping to neutralize these chemicals.
I'm going to do some more digging, this is way too fascinating and I need to save my mysteriously dieing zoas!
Cheers,
Josh
My first hypothesis:
We all start off with healthy tanks, keep adding corals, they keep growing but soon we might reach a "carrying" capacity of sorts in the tank. Natures way for corals to deal with this is chemical warfare. I think V-C's antioxidant properties are helping to neutralize these chemicals.
I'm going to do some more digging, this is way too fascinating and I need to save my mysteriously dieing zoas!
Cheers,
Josh
Puffalicious
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I found 100% buffered pure vitamin C. It is the ascorbic acid, not the sodium ascorbate. Will this still lower the PH or is it safe to use?
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