Treating with Vitamin C

[pinetree]

Now for some pics: (One tank is obviously newer. I'm dosing both.)

 

[pinetree]

And a few more:

 

[pinetree]

OK I rushed these - not use to posting pics here so it took me awhile. After reading most of this thread (hours) I'm hungry and need to get away from this machine for a while. I've lots of pics at club SWAM . org - my local club - name is snowmaker. Have diy's there too.
Thanks,
I love experiments!

 

[jdieck]

Welcome to posting Pinetree!

 

[flyyyguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11849101#post11849101 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jdieck
As I mentioned befor none of the "buffered" forms should increase the alkalinity but should not decrease it either.
The non buffered one (the acid form) will reduce alkalinity and PH.

300 ml/day of Randy's recipe 1 will add about 2 dKh of alkalinity to your 225 system which for a daily consumption on a heavy loades sps tank could even be on the low side.

When you refer that the vitamin when added causes a "temporary" alkalinity swing do you mean it swings back by itself to the previous level or do you do something to bring it back up? Is it a swing on PH and not alkalinity, what exactly do you refer too?

Thanks jdieck. I didnt get it from when we touched on this earlier and left the last time thinking it was going to lower your alk whether it was buffered or not........and using the unbuffered stuff it was behaving how I thought it should......

so for one I wont use the unbuffered anymore. Still not sure what could have caused what happened to the stylos although in looking at them just now now that the lights have been on for a while(my photoperiod starts at 2 pm)......both the pinks are out in full, and both the other ones look a lot better than they did last night.......the one is still pretty rough, but it lost that soft look so im hopeful......Someone else also pointed out that stylos can be more sensitive to flow, and I did just reaquascape the tank with absolute flow in mind, as well as added a ton of flow on top fo that....so that could be a factor, although I would have thought they would have showed more of an affect tot his a couple weeks ago instead of waiting until now....

as far as my alk/calcium/mag consumption........while the tank may be loaded....its a forest of frags, no real colonies yet as the tank started over last summer so I think my consumption where it should.

The swing I was referring to was alk, and I was adding additional to maintain.

 

[Pufferpunk]

My 40g is turning a slight tinge of yellow/green. Every solid surface is slimy. My skimmer is overflowing. Good news--N03 is 0 but all my fish are out of there, in hypo for crypt.

 

[driftin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11844926#post11844926 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dustin1300
Now, that you guys mentioned it my hammer coral has been a little closed up since I started adding the Vitamin C...

I had been dosing only 5ppm. I thought it was coincidence that my wall-hammer closed up basically the same day I started dosing, but I haven't seen any improvement in the coral in the past 2 weeks. I didn't have any zoa problems before I dosed; yesteday I stopped dosing and I'm going to see what happens to the hammer. It seems to be the only coral that has been affected.

Makes me wonder if certain corals are susceptible to one of the effects of dosing.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Also about the crypt my fish had--only 1 fish showed the parastie. As soon as I say that, I started dosing C in that tank too. None of the other fish showed the parasite, even after 3 weeks.

I have a show-size frogspawn that looks fantastic, even at 33ppm.

 

[Questin]

Has anyone tried using Glutathione instead?

 

[Vinnie71975]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11855336#post11855336 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Questin
Has anyone tried using Glutathione instead?

What exactly is Glutathione?

 

[Questin]

Its an antioxidant like Vitamin C

From reading everything here, I was wondering if anyone tried something that was like Vitamin C to see if they get the same effect, and a lot of posts where starting to point to the possibity that it was not the Vitamin C that was helping things out, but the act of being an antioxidant that actually helped because of how it was allowing more benifical things to happen that were being serpressed otherwise.

Glutathione is like Vitamin C because it is an antioxidant and it is solubility in water. It can also be found in drug stores as a dietary supplement.

 

[PaintGuru]

I just cut back my dosing to 1x day. We'll see if things stay the same or not.

Would Glutathione cheaper the VC?

 

[Jeff]

I am thinking about going to 1 dose a day probably in the morning. Aren't most corals kind of dormant in the dark? I wonder if the second dose does anything.

 

[jdieck]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11863552#post11863552 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Engine 7
I am thinking about going to 1 dose a day probably in the morning. Aren't most corals kind of dormant in the dark? I wonder if the second dose does anything.

Many corals if not most will further extend their polyps at night to filter feed and compensate for the lack of light.

 

[Jeff]

Hmm, good point Jose. Do you think that the corals would get the same benefit at night out of the vitamin C as the day dose?

Hurry back Puffy, we miss you!

 

[PaintGuru]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11864240#post11864240 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Engine 7
Hmm, good point Jose. Do you think that the corals would get the same benefit at night out of the vitamin C as the day dose?

Hurry back Puffy, we miss you!

The other thought is that VC is light sensitive, so it may be better to dose when the lights are off.

 

[montanabay]

VC does degrade faster when exposed to light, I dose twice a day, once in the morning right when the lights come on and right when they go off. I'm one day 6 or so, zoas might be starting to open up...well at least they are the most open that they've been in 3months...

 

[RoyalEnchntrss]

All of my corals are reaaaalllly happy but everything has a slimey film over it like Puffer said... its whitish and grooossss.. i tried cleaning today, changed all of my filter floss and cleaned my skimmer now everything is mad and cloudy... i dont know if this is because of the C or not though??

 

[Pufferpunk]

RE, How much are you dosing? I think I have been adding too much to my smaller, 40g tank. The bubbles are coming out of the top of the skimmer cup on my Backpac! I added more flow to the tank & it's not as slimey now.

 

[AeroD79]

update

update

Heres my update for my blue zoos..(started Feb)

So far the asterina starfish are no longer eating the stolons. I havent noticed a growth yet. Then I switched back to my hamilton 14ks..the colors are really showing up as much as before or better.


14k at 2006

same bulb now