Treating with Vitamin C

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lol, alright i just read this entire thread and i would be stupid if i didnt give this a try.

i was at Jeni's (pufferpunk) house today and let me tell you, the zoanthids she has in her tank are huge and so perfect looking! i cant wait to go get some vitamin C on the way home from work and try this out for myself.

so everyone is saying to keep an eye on the pH while dosing vitamin C. does it really drop the pH? does it drop because the alk changes?
im worried that it'll help my zoa and hurt the sps instead! anyone have lots of sps in their tank that aren't getting irritated by the large vitamin C dosing?
 
you are adding ascorbic acid and it effects the PH not Alk in my experience. I just add PH buffer at the same time I add the C. I have a few SPS and they are coloring up. I do not think it is "just" good for zoanthids. good luck and follow the directions in the 17th post on the first page of the thread
 
thanks, im looking forward to giving this a try.

maybe we should start trowing multivitamin pills in the tank :D
 
i just put 500mg in 110g of water volume and my ORP dropped from 380 to 180 within a few minutes. also my ballast just stopped working but i think thats not related lol

did anyone notice such a huge drop in ORP? after an hours it climbed up to 230 and i put in another 500g and it dropped again to 140mV. weird.
 
What's ORP? Now aren't you silly, you're asking if it affects SPS but you saw that mine are growing great! I've noticed a lot more growth since adding the C (remember, I've been adding it longer than anyone--about 3 months now). I complain about my polyp extension but I've always had that problem. There are before & after pics at uber frags.com (no space in that title). I just bumped up my dosing to 6000mg/day now.
 
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It did mine -as it is ascorbic acid and it will decrease PH. In addition to my two part I add a PH buffer every other day. Everything seems to be doing awesome and very healthy. I actually might increase the dose even more just to see the effect, as I have also started using carbon for the next day or so.

As for the ORP a person in our local club also had the same experience. I do not check or have ever checked for that, and most everything my tank is doing rather well. I do know my PH, Alk, and Ca are all good. I also tun a phosban reactor so phosphates are almost nothing. good luck
 
Oxygen reduction potential. It's a measure of the stability of your system's oxygen level.
 
I have never paid attention nor do I plan to do so as everything else is all good. good luck

I am also sure that some geeky reefer will tell me that I am starving my reef or messing with the water chemistry because of my not monitoring my OPR or ORP .
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11436363#post11436363 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by geoxman
I have never paid attention nor do I plan to do so as everything else is all good. good luck

I am also sure that some geeky reefer will tell me that I am starving my reef or messing with the water chemistry because of my not monitoring my OPR or ORP .
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It is what it is. If you don't wan't to pay attention to it that's up to you. Why bother to read it. If someone asks what it means I 'll be polite enough to answer without editorializing. Just because you don't know what it means doesn't entitle you to characterize someone else as a "geeky reefer". Frankly, I wouldn't waste my time disturbing your obviously ,arrogant, ignorant , rude state of mind.
 
Interesting... How is it monitored? Does that have to do with the dissolved O2 in the water? Why do you think the C would affect that?

I really don't think geoxman meant it that way. Remember, stuff written on forums are not always interpteted as they are meant to sound.
 
Folks monitor it with an orp monitor.Some dose ozone to improve it. I do not. I don't know the chemistry well enough to say why it happens in reaction to the vitamin C or wether the reported reductions are harmful in this situation. I'm sure the folks on the chemistry forum could help understand it better. I hope the C turns out to be the panacea many on this thread think it is. I am fond of my zoanthus and have experienced some melting from time to time. An effective intervention would be most welcome.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11436682#post11436682 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
Interesting... How is it monitored? Does that have to do with the dissolved O2 in the water? Why do you think the C would affect that?

I really don't think geoxman meant it that way. Remember, stuff written on forums are not always interpteted as they are meant to sound.
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ORP really has to do with every reaction in your system where a chemical is either oxidizing or reducing (Gaining or loosing electrons).
Basically it has been associated with the water quality the higher it is but in reality it does not mean much other than a higher ORP means that your water has more oxidizing capacity and not necessarily because there is more Oxygen in it but more oxidizing agents.
Of course excess oxidizing kills, bleach, iodine, permanganate and Ozone are examples of oxidizers and in certain way they are all used to disinfect and sterilize if used in excess and they increase ORP
On the other hand Iron, Iodide, and antioxidants like vitamin C are reducers so they reduce the ORP.
What does that really mean? Nothing unless you are either extremely low (below 200 to 150 mv) or extremely high (above 450 mv)
Most aquariums under normal circumstances is between 250 to 375 mv.
Because all this reactions are happening all the time and involve the potential for electron transfers, ORP can be measured by using a probe that can measure the movement of those electrons in millivolts between two electrodes in the probe.
Here is a take to ORP and what it is and what it is not:

ORP and the Reef Aquarium
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-12/rhf/feature/index.php
 
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