Treating with Vitamin C

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Alright i have read quite a few pages and i cant find the info i am looking for. I have a mainly sps 150 gallons of water total. I have been dosing VC for about 2 weeks increasing up to about 11,000mg 2x a day. I have noticed some nice colors and polyp extension. I am dosing because i have about 125 new frags a just made and trying to get them back to good health and also wouldn't mind the extra color!!!

I have 2 questions.

1-Has anyone noticed their alkalinity raising while dosing calcium ascorbate? I have a calcium reactor and and it was pretty dialed in and stable for a over a month. I started dosing VC and my alkalinity has slowly risen to the point where i had to shut my calcium reactor off for and it still has barely lowered until i held off a dosage of VC and the alkalinity dropped a point overnight.

2-For those with filter socks...I use to have to change them about every week, now it seriously overflows a sock in under a day.
 
I had alkalinity rise as well. It was off the charts. Also, my pH went up pretty high too, then I got dinoflagelletes like crazy. I don't know if this can be attributed to the Vit C for sure, but when I resume treating, I'm going to be careful about keeping track of everything
 
I'm going to be stopping for awhile too.. I had a green slime outbreak and we had to totally dump everything out of my sump last night because it smelled so bad... Sooooo what caused it I dont know.. My fish guy ( I wont say who ;) lol) blames the C... so now I have to go mix up new water and get my sump hooked back up...fun fun...
 
I'm on the other end of the spectrum with algae outbreaks. Had a problem with dinos and some spots of hair algae but after started dosing everything is clearing up. I did have cloudy water for a couple of days and thought it might have been the VC, but it cleared up and haven't had to clean the glass for about 10 days now.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12198933#post12198933 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ozadars
Do you guys know if its safe to use Ester-C such as this:
http://www.gnc.com/sm-gnc-ester-c-1000--pi-2133357.html

I cant find any other form of calcium ascorbate nor sodium.

It says it contains;
Vitamin C (as Calcium Ascorbate) 1000.00 mg 1667% Calcium (as Calcium Ascorbate) 94.00 mg 9%
Citrus Bioflavonoids Complex 200.00 mg

and cellulose as its not a powder.
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Ozadars, I have never heard of anybody using it in their tanks. I have been dosing for weeks now and have followed this thread the entire time. I think this is the second time someone has asked but I dont think anybody have used it yet.

RoyalEnchntrss, I doubt the vitamin C caused your problems. It sounds like you have something serious going on that needs to be solved. I havent come across anybody have adverse effects like that yet but you may be the first.

Whenever something happens in our tanks we naturally try to think of anything we have changed in the near past and blame that change on the problem but its not always that easy. If the dosing procedure is followed as suggested in these pages,in a healthy, mature reef then it seems like the only thing that has been positivly traced back to the vitamin dosing is an increased alk in a few tanks, a couple small issues regarding sps polyp extention, and a lot of tanks with incresed coral color and growth. Some tanks have had a marked decrease in algae while others have had outbreaks of new algae. It really seems like each tank reacts differently and I think a lot of the reactions are caused by some detoxifying effects. There really isnt much in the way of scientific evidence yet.
 
I have been dosing Vit C for about 3 weeks now. In the past 2 years that my tank has been set up all the changes in it have been very slow and very subtle. Since I started dosing vit c all the algae in my tank is showing a huge reaction. Cheato stopped growing, red turf algae is gone (wow), red macro algae (I forget what kind) has turned white and stopped growing and cleaning the glass is now a rare occasion. For the most part this is not bad and all my corals/inverts have been looking really good. My concern is what about the beneficial algae inside the corral and anemones that they need to live? How could dosing vit c stunt the growth and virtually kill off or smother some algae and not affect all?
 
This is just a theory, but those algaes are protected from the outside by the corals. I know corals cannot maintain homeostasis, but they may be able to protect the algae somehow anyway. Perhaps the coral changes the vitamin C into a more useable form. It should also be taken into consideration that many of the nutrients provided to the coral algae are by-products of coral metabolism, while the other algaes receive their nutrients directly from the tank.
 
I'm sure there is a fine line between dosing so the good prevails and the bad dies... Just a matter of fine tuning the dosage.

NOTE: I have yet to try this myself... But I've been keeping an eye on this thread!:wildone:
 
I'm dosing probably higher than anyone else, for certainly longer & have no issues. I'm at about 23ppm now, around 5 months into dosing.
 
I have no plans to stop dosing but that is something I'm going to keep an eye out. It makes sense for everyone to at least keep it in mind.
 
I bought Ester C vitamins today. In the prospectus, it says that every pill contains 645 mg calcium ascorbate. It doesnt say anything else so I think its safe to use. My tank is 50 gals and I plan to use two pill everyday. Anything wrong with my dosage?
 
For those of you having dKH swings or increases... how many of you are using the Calcium Ascorbate?

I know it came up earlier in the thread but it was thought that maybe the "Calcium Carbonate" portion is negligible, but I think it may have more of an affect than we realize. If you look at the content by mass its actually about "9%" Calcium Carbonate--which means that you are essentially also dosing "kalk". So in a 100g tank dosing at 30ppm per day, you are dosing your tank about 2 grams of kalk every day. I wouldn't say thats negligible.

100 tank @ 30ppm. Dosing 11355 mg VC twice a day

11355mg x 0.09 Calcium Carbonate = 1021mg x 2 = 2024mg Calcium Carbonate

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I'm using Sodium Ascorbate and I had a huge swing. It is the product that was recommend by so many people. Only Vit C and Sodium (6%).
 
up...this is a little off topic, but I was wondering what people thought about using the powder to soak food in before feeding fish? Selcon contains "stabilized Vit C" and B12 primarily
 
d9sccr, how much are you dosing and how often. Please explain exactly what you are doing and your water parameters please. With a 12 gallon tank and the incredible potency of the vitamin, I would bet you are overdosing.

And in response to your last question about soaking fish food in vitamin C powder, I would think that it would lead to disaster. That powder is super concentrated and you have a very small tank.
 
d9sccr, how much are you dosing and how often. Please explain exactly what you are doing and your water parameters please. With a 12 gallon thank and the incredible potency of the vitamin, I would bet you are overdosing.

And in response to your last question about soaking fish food in vitamin C powder, I would think that it would lead to disaster. That powder is super concentrated and you have a very small tank.
 
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