Trigger Experts : Do Triggers Act Strange While Changing Sex? (Crosshatch)

[nuxx]

We have two Crosshatch Triggers in our tank.

Both were 3.5 to 4" when we got them.

One was always slighter darker than the other, with yellow fins and a yellow tail. The other is lighter silver with brown/red fins and a yellow tail.

Over the last week or so, the darker Crosshatch has started to get more golden in color and his fins are much brighter yellow, but still a yellow tail.

Over the last 3 days it has been pretty shy about food. It'll still eat, but maybe at 10% of the aggressiveness. Also doesn't even go after the nori like it always did when we put that in at lunch time.

Also seems to eat about 20% of what it was eating a week ago.

I'm wondering if he's changing into a full male and might be feeling strange / stressed.

Two days ago I was watching him and he did a little 360 degree twirl while pointed down diagonally.

The other Crosshatch has also been a lot less aggressive about food and is staying very close to the other Crosshatch at all times.

Any ideas?

Thanks :beer:

 

[humaguy]

Lol, trigs always act strange, that's why I love them!
Though their weirdness does not necessarily increase during sexual transitioning.

 

[nuxx]

Lol, trigs always act strange, that's why I love them!
Though their weirdness does not necessarily increase during sexual transitioning.

Thanks Ted

Think they're ok with this weird lack of interest in food?

 

[humaguy]

sure, as long as there is not an underlying cause behind the not eating.
They have been med? No flukes?

 

[nuxx]

No meds and I can't see anything indicating flukes.

 

[e048]

All fish act up when swapping genders (changes in hormones) same as people going through puberty

My experience has been with clowns and wrasse but whenever one is transitioning it gets moody and aggressive even fighting it's reflection and hands in the tank usually lasts a few weeks to months then boom back to normal behavior but now with the opposite "gender"

 

[humaguy]

All fish act up when swapping genders (changes in hormones) same as people going through puberty

My experience has been with clowns and wrasse but whenever one is transitioning it gets moody and aggressive even fighting it's reflection and hands in the tank usually lasts a few weeks to months then boom back to normal behavior but now with the opposite "gender"

I agree, if transitioning to male they will become more assertive and aggressive but they do not, imho, become more, lol, "weird"....

 

[e048]

I had a clown transition and rip all the the tentacles off her nem so yeah she got weird lol

Triggers are usually pretty mean just expect an increase in aggression with the female and be ready to seperate them if need be he may bully her to show off his "manliness"

 

[humaguy]

I had a clown transition and rip all the the tentacles off her nem so yeah she got weird lol

Triggers are usually pretty mean just expect an increase in aggression with the female and be ready to seperate them if need be he may bully her to show off his "manliness"

lol, yes, that is weird..

lol, trigs are always weird and do strange things..
there are only a couple of trigs we may see go thru a sexual transition- ch and bt...maybe some others but they need to be huge. or quite old..
my ch changed over night and there were no overt weird changes but there was def an increase in aggression towards the other male but not enough to keep him female??? lol, or too much to keep him male??? anyway, they are both male and I hope to get them out over Xmas...

 

[nuxx]

lol, yes, that is weird..

lol, trigs are always weird and do strange things..
there are only a couple of trigs we may see go thru a sexual transition- ch and bt...maybe some others but they need to be huge. or quite old..
my ch changed over night and there were no overt weird changes but there was def an increase in aggression towards the other male but not enough to keep him female??? lol, or too much to keep him male??? anyway, they are both male and I hope to get them out over Xmas...

Feel there might be more going on here...

Noticed that both Triggers were not really eating for a day or two.

Going by the whole "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." mantra, I went ahead and dosed PraziPro in the display.

In the two days since, both Triggers have been hiding constantly. I'm beginning to think somehow flukes could have possibly got into the tank. No new fish or coral added, but new fish are in QT.

This behavior is making me think they're dealing with flukes (or some other internal worm/parasite) being killed in their bodies.

Other fish are all acting normally.

 

[nuxx]

Do you guys think it could be flukes (now being treated) forcing them to hide all day and not eat?

It's going on 2-3 days now of them hiding / not eating.

It's really strange it's both of them...

 

[nuxx]

Trigger 1:





Trigger 2:





This is a bit concerning now... they starting eating less mid last week.

Dosed PraziPro Saturday (2 days ago) and they started hiding.

Do you think this could be a reaction to the Prazi, more specifically if there was something internal bothering them?

Been in the tank for well over a year. All new fish were QTed with Prazi, Paraguard and Cupramine...

 

[nuxx]

I also changed food a few days before.

Basically mixed all my frozen foods together with a fork and put in 6 big freezer bags.

Do you think they're just being Triggers?

How long should I wait until I start offering live foods like clams / mussles?

Should I get through the second round of Prazi? Doing the last dose Thursday or Friday.

 

[nuxx]

Still hiding and not eating

Other fish seem fine, except for the large Flame Wrasse and Yellow Tang which are both not eating as much.

Wondering if a reaction to whatever the Prazi is treating or maybe something to do with lowered oxygen...

 

[McPuff]

Hmmm, this is weird indeed. I've had it before where triggers will just hide for a day or three... and for no apparent reason. I've heard that selcon can be great for getting fish to eat. Maybe try soaking some food in that?? Or may some live brine to entice them out of hiding? Other than that, I guess you just have to play the waiting game. :0(

 

[nuxx]

Well they decided to come out today...

The "female" is a little bolder, she took a few bites of food.

Didn't see the male eat anything though.

 

[nuxx]

Seems to have been an aggression issue...

The Crosshatches and the super male Flame Wrasse had not come out in days or eaten...

When the Crosshatches came out, I noticed the Yellow Bellied Blue Tang was right there bothering them.

Also noticed the Flame Wrasse had big chunks missing from his tail.

Decided to pull the YB Blue Tang...

So 5 hours later...

This morning, everyone's out and about... and eating like normal!

 

[McPuff]

Looks like the tang removal resulted in a bit of splashing, huh? :0)

Good thing to get the bully out of there!

 

[anbosu]

That is a fish I will probably never own. Seems like they consistently turn into terrors as they age. A buddy of mine is stuck with one in his tank, and he can barely keep anything else in there with it.

 

[nuxx]

Looks like the tang removal resulted in a bit of splashing, huh? :0)

Good thing to get the bully out of there!

Yeah just a little bit of drippage...

That is a fish I will probably never own. Seems like they consistently turn into terrors as they age. A buddy of mine is stuck with one in his tank, and he can barely keep anything else in there with it.

I had a feeling he'd have to go at some point. After three fish just won't come out anymore it was time for him to go...