True vs False Percula Clowns

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PaulieReef

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Well I saved a clown fish's life last night, she was in a friends tank who ended up exploding and she was the only survivor. Anyway I found out she is a false Percula.

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So my question was.. can I only get another false percula for them to pair and possibly mate, or would a true percula do just as well? I googled this and found both answers but was wondering if people had any success/failures with this.

And if people have had success with them deal with each other have you ever had them spawn with successful babies?

Thanks
Paul :lol2:
 
A. ocellaris and A. percula are closely related. I have not personally kept a mixed pair, but there are a lot of people who have, and they will crossbreed. Unless you specifically want percula though, I would go ahead and get another ocellaris.
 
don't do it, stick with the false perc.. they will fight even when they are the same species let alone a different one. You need to get a very small false perc for that one
 
mcosta528 said:
don't do it, stick with the false perc.. they will fight even when they are the same species let alone a different one. You need to get a very small false perc for that one
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Uh... I have a mixed pair. One black and white ocellaris and one picasso. They have never faught. My pairs of the same species dont fight either.
 
mcosta528 said:
thats may because they are both ocelarrus
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Lol read your first post it said clowns of the same species will fight, Thats not true most of the time. Also picasso and black and white ocellaris are not the same species. So it is a mixed species and they dont fight.


To the op: If you like the looks of percs better than ocellaris go for it.
 
okay well go from the experience i guess, i bought two true percs around the same size... they fought one became dominant, they paired.. okay then i bought a haddoni anemoni they didnt want to host in... SO i bought a clarkii, they host everything... but he made my other clowns soo ****ed off. Both species are in my tank however, they have strict territorial lines. The true percs go in 2 colonies of whisker corals and the clarkii gets the anemone... I had to rearrange the whole tank... PS when i got the clarkii he was about 2" long, he is now aroung 4 1/2" long... They can coexist, but they need territories or safe havens to go to.
I saw two ocellarus my neighbor bought that wouldnt get along. One was plain looking, and the other had black pectoral fins. One killed the other, they were slightly different types of the ocellarus species. So its up to you then or whoever has been successful to explain... whatever jus tryin to help
 
The op is not talking about having more clowns than one pair in the tank. He is just trying to pair a perc with an ocellaris. I agree having a pair of percs and a clarki in the same tank is irresponsible. clarki clowns are some of the most aggressive and they can easily kill other clowns.
 
picasso ocellaris, black whites are pretty similar in temperment and just diffent versions of Amphiprion Ocellaris. A picasso is a ocellaris with what i consider to be a birth defect of some sort. The true percs are more aggressive and different... I think most of the time a true perc will just eff up an ocellaris... but i dont go around trying so i can only say what i was told
 
mcosta528 said:
picasso ocellaris, black whites are pretty similar in temperment and just diffent versions of Amphiprion Ocellaris. A picasso is a ocellaris with what i consider to be a birth defect of some sort. The true percs are more aggressive and different... I think most of the time a true perc will just eff up an ocellaris... but i dont go around trying so i can only say what i was told
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Picassos are true percula hence the mixed species. They are not ocellaris. They also stay smaller than ocellaris and neither species is very aggressive.


mcosta528 said:
you can have 30 true percs in a tank together if it is big enough
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Im not sure i see your point. You can have as many of any type of fish that you want in a tank big enough. The question is how big does that tank have to be.
 
i don't care anymore, im just saying a true perc and occellaris can turn out bad... and i wouldn't guarantee 100% that a true perc and an ocellaris will get along. Oh and i was thinking that the picassos were the snoflake ocellaris... my bad there is a difference then with the picasoo's
 
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mcosta528 said:
i don't care anymore, im just saying a true perc and occellaris can turn out bad... and i wouldn't guarantee 100% that a true perc and an ocellaris will get along. Oh and i was thinking that the picassos were the snoflake ocellaris... my bad there is a difference then with the picasoo's
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Try to be careful with what you post in the new to the hobby section. I have never heard of anyone having problems pairing percs or ocellaris, Unless they werent careful and bought two females, then you will have problems.
 
evidence can be shown if you type in "clownfish fighting" into you tube if you would like to see how they fight n what not
 
Ok i looked it up and those videos are of two females fighting. Two females will not get along no matter what species as i stated before.
 
Paul;

I know this won't answer your question specifically, but it touches on the same basic concept.

I had a bonded pair of clowns, a small maroon female and a similar sized ocellaris male, in as small of a tank as a 10 gallon. They got along wonderfully, even snuggled and slept together in the same nook in the rock. I never once had issues with the two of them, though they also never attempted to mate. Snuggle buddies I think =)

Going off of the argument above- it doesn't matter what species of animal or fish you have. You can have two different species of birds. Some two will get along, while another pair of the same two species will not. Just like people. John and Sara can get along perfectly, perhaps even make the perfect couple, while Zach and Beth are simply not compatible. It's all in the personality of the individual fish, or people.
 
Back to your question.

Was the clown the only clown in the tank. If so how long was it in there?

If it was part of a pair was it the dominant female or passive male?

The real issue is, has it changed to a dominant female? In the clownfish world you can't mix females so the safe thing to do is add an immature male. However if the original clown has been alone a while it can be pretty aggressive to a new tank mate. What you may want to do is use one of those breeder pens that drop into the tank, allow circulation, and keep the fish apart in the new tank for a while.

You can pair oscellaris and percula, however an oscellaris is usually about $20 cheaper so I don't know why you'd want to add a percula.

hth,
 
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