Trueblackpercula and peroxide for AEFW

Word to the wise: that goes for frag plugs since they can have eggs and stuff too. I always remount my stuff on fresh, clean frag plugs when I get stuff home.
 
Word to the wise: that goes for frag plugs since they can have eggs and stuff too. I always remount my stuff on fresh, clean frag plugs when I get stuff home.

I totally agree with you. I will never place a frag plug or maricultured piece with the base in my tank again leason learned.
 
That's an awesome attitude "if they die, I'll replace them as they are so cheap it's not even funny"

Way to respect the ocean!

They are maricultures, so its not like he is buying pieces straight from the reef. At least the growers have tons of clones of each piece in which they keep growing. So its not really like he is hurting the ocean. He is actually helping the ocean (in a way) by supporting the people and operations who culture the wild corals instead of just take them from the reef.
 
Thanks for the info on the peroxide dip, I am only familiar with using it on zoanthids and thought it would hurt acropora so I never tried it!
 
They are maricultures, so its not like he is buying pieces straight from the reef. At least the growers have tons of clones of each piece in which they keep growing. So its not really like he is hurting the ocean.

Or so you think.

It's perfectly acceptable in Indonesian mariculture farms to collect 'broken' pieces of the reef to grow and resell as maricultured pieces. Whereas that 'broken' piece would have been a full fledged colony in the wild in 10 years.

Just saying. Mariculture practices are not as sustainable as they'd like you to believe.
 
I am aware, they get their corals from the reef. My point is how they continue to regrow from the pieces they collect. Maybe not all maricultures are as helpful as the rest, but still. I didn't mean to imply it was sustainable, just that its better than stealing corals straight off a reef to sell.
 
Also I think he was trying to say that if he has a coral die, then its OK because he can get another one and do it right the next time around. Which in my book is great considering all the people that just keep trying wild pieces without actually learning a good process.
Having a good attitude when finding out you have aefw is very hard and I commend him for it, if you worry about pests to much sometimes it can ruin the hobby.
 
About 2 yrs ago, I used Bayer insecticide, dipped once a week, for 8 weeks and they are gone. I was a real PITA..... Good luck

This was what I did in April this year. All acros looking great again and no signs of the little bastards. I also dipped a large Hawkins colony in double strength solution a few times for almost 10mins a pop.
 
So, what's the solution for eggs?.
That's the only way to be free of AEFW, find something that will kill the eggs.

Mo
 
For me it was locating the eggs and scraping off or gluing over them. Then repeated weekly dips every 6 days for 5 weeks. At first all FWs that came off in dips were huge, then they got smaller and smaller until none. I read that the large ones are the egg bearers so once you break their cycle and continuing dipping, your there. PITA dipping everything weekly, but worth it just to see the little bastards twitch in extra strength bayer!
 
Any idea on the lifecycle of those:
-how many days for the eggs to hatch?
-How long for the AEFW to become mature to reproduce?
 
Peroxide has many uses, I'm glad to see its effective on flatworms. I dosed it on my Sps tank for 1.5 months with no problems for dinoflagellates.
 
So, what's the solution for eggs?.
That's the only way to be free of AEFW, find something that will kill the eggs.

Mo

hey Mo hows it going? as for the eggs I did notice when I dipped the piece in the beginning of this threads they turn off white after 8 minutes and they didn't have the really orange color to them.

I also took a tooth brush on them and scrubbed them off just to be safe.

Below is what I would recommend as a dip.

My dip was to aggressive for the acro. 8 minutes in that potent of a solution was way to strong but affective.
1000 mls of tank water and 300 mls of peroxide may have been too strong but was affective. I say too strong because the piece i dipped in the pictures and the video went pale and is just starting to recover. I will be dipping it again tomorrow and I will post my results.

This is what I am going to try:

If anyone wants to try it please try 1000mls of tank water and 200 mls of peroxide for 3 to 5 minutes max.

Then place them inside a batch of tank water for 15 minutes and then dip them again in a new batch as described above. Then when that's completed you can put them in a holding tank or back into the main display like I did.

Also I would suggest taking close up pictures of the base with a camera or your cell to check for eggs.

You will notice that the worms will fall off the colony almost immediately and will turn white when they are dead.

I Hope everyone dips there newly acquired with this stuff as I truly does work.

Almost forgot this stuff kills even asternia starfish and bristle worms in addition to any other pods on the acro.

Michael
 
I've used a 50 50 mix before on my sps with no ill effects. I usually take the cups you get with mcdonalds coffee and I will do fill it half way. I use a mesuring cup and do 8 oz of peroxide and 8 oz of tank water.

I let them sit for 10 min, then into a cup with tank water I swish around then back into the tank.

Many sps zoa lps etc etc within days the hair algae is gone never lost a frag ever
 
UPDATE !!!!!

I dipped again today and did not see a single AEFW none and no eggs. Also the ones that i did dip there is no algae on the base of the matricultered pieces as well nothing this stuff is amazing and only cost $2 bucks,LOL

Michael
 
UPDATE !!!!!

I dipped again today and did not see a single AEFW none and no eggs. Also the ones that i did dip there is no algae on the base of the matricultered pieces as well nothing this stuff is amazing and only cost $2 bucks,LOL

Michael

Great to hear, keep dipping however IMO
 
UPDATE !!!!!

I dipped again today and did not see a single AEFW none and no eggs. Also the ones that i did dip there is no algae on the base of the matricultered pieces as well nothing this stuff is amazing and only cost $2 bucks,LOL

Michael

Hey Michael,

What strength of peroxide do you use?. 3,6,9 % or 35%?.

1000ml tank water and 200ml peroxide?. So, 1:5?.

Thanks

Mo
 
Great to hear, keep dipping however IMO

+1 these little monsters will fool you at every chance they get. They are now probably hiding behind the coral that looks perfect saying "look, he is dipping again, I bet he stops once he sees none of us in the dip container. Your right let's lay 1000 eggs where he can't see them, that will crush his spirit next month!"
 
+1 these little monsters will fool you at every chance they get. They are now probably hiding behind the coral that looks perfect saying "look, he is dipping again, I bet he stops once he sees none of us in the dip container. Your right let's lay 1000 eggs where he can't see them, that will crush his spirit next month!"


LMAO very funny as i needed that with all that is going on right now. :lolspin:

You are correct they are little devils that will cause so much damage over time. I checked my records and I had first acquired that piece 96 days before it showed any signs of AEFW. I will check again this weekend and dip again but there are pieces in the tank that i just would have to break off the rocks to dip and i am not going to do that.

My plan is to continue to check weekly and as always check the tank daily for any other sps under stress. I also plan on getting 4 to 6 Blue Sapphire Damselfish (Chrysiptera springeri) fish as they are known to eat them. I have also read that there is a green wrasse called Green Wrasse (Halichoeres chloropterus) that hunts them down and eats them as well. My only problem with this little wrasse is my mystery wrasse may want to eat him. Dose anyone no if i can place them in the same tank?

Well as for the dip i have rocommened if yuo try it you will see that nothing survives this dip and i mean nothing. Please use it wilth caution and if there are AEFW I can be certain its not on the pieces I already dipped.....try it and you will see what I mean LOL

I will keep everyone posted this weekend .

Michael
 
Hey Michael,

What strength of peroxide do you use?. 3,6,9 % or 35%?.

1000ml tank water and 200ml peroxide?. So, 1:5?.

Thanks

Mo

Hey Mo hope all is well YES 1:5 ratio for 1 to 3 minutes will be perfect. as for the solution it was over the counter stuff from CVS. I promisse to check later tonight and get back you.

Good luck in the quest to destroy AEFW :) But with peroxide who needs luck :bounce3::dance:

Michael
 
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