Tunze Stream control?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10751408#post10751408 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Eight
Thanks for the help... I actually measured the wave with my .7/.8 values and the wave height was more like .5".

Curt, I think you're right. The period value should be 1.5. I tried 1.4 and 1.6 and both weren't right.

I did get better results by going with a .6 on and a .9 off. I also adjusted the pump strengths to go from 10/100 instead of 30/100.

With the .6/.9 and 10/100 I was getting over a 1" wave which is really nice. I'm actually going to turn it down some because the overflow makes a gurgling sound now and it'll probably make me seasick. :)

Thanks guys!
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I'm getting the best result with .6 off and .8 on with 30/100 power settings. 1-1.5" wave on a 4' long 120 gal tank. I think my rockwork interupts the wave action some.
 
Verper

do use 1 or 2 Tunzes to utilize that timing?

Here is what I am using...it gets me about a 1 inch wave in my 120.

Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 09/20/00 for PF1
Pmp MODE SD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2
Pmp OSC 00/20/09 for PF2

Thanks

ein
 
einsteins,
I suspect that your period settings are twice the resonate frequency of your tank (unless your 120 is really long). If you want a bigger wave try:

Pmp OSC 07/08/00 for PF1
Pmp OSC 00/08/07 for PF2

Or

Pmp OSC 07/07/00 for PF1
Pmp OSC 00/07/07 for PF2

Curt
 
Curt,

My stream pump can't differentiate between 25% to 30% power, and the impeller will stop spin completely below 25%, and from 24% to 100% is where I find 1.5 to double waves using 2x sychronized streams in my 48x24x24 tank.

Another question I have is how to program a ramdanize the flow from 1 hour wave to 1 hour growing surge to 1 hour of alternating pumps giving the fact that there are only 4 profiles availlable for ACJr. I tried using RMD statment but it doesn't seems to work too well, perhaps it's not programmed correctly.

Thanks

Spencer
 
You will have to choose which modes are most important, and then share profiles as best you can. Post or email your program, and I'll try to help out.

Curt
 
Hi Curt,

Here is my program see if you can help me to ramdamize it a little bet so I can get 1 hour of wave, 1 hour of pmp1 only, 1 hour of pmp2 only, then growing surge.

Thanks.

Spencer

If Timer = 10:30 Then PM1 PF1
If Timer = 23:00 Then PM1 PF2
If Timer = 10:30 Then PM2 PF3
If Timer = 23:00 Then PM2 PF4

Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 024/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 07/07/00 for PF1

Pmp MODE sD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/050 for PF2
Pmp OSC 50/50/00 for PF2

Pmp MODE SD for PF3
Pmp Int 024/100 for PF3
Pmp OSC 00/07/07 for PF3

Pmp MODE SD for PF4
Pmp Int 030/050 for PF4
Pmp OSC 00/50/50 for PF4
 
This code will do what you would like, however, it takes 3 intermediate timer names. You could reduce this by keying the mode changes off of another timer name (like lights).

OSC 060/180 ON/OFF Then FO1 ON
OSC 180/060 ON/OFF Then FOO ON
OSC 120/120 ON/OFF Then FO2 ON
If Timer FO2 = OFF Then PM1 OFF
If Timer FO2 = ON Then PM1 ON
If Timer FO1 = ON Then PM1 PF1
If Timer FOO = OFF Then PM1 PF2
If Timer FO2 = ON Then PM2 OFF
If Timer FO2 = OFF Then PM2 ON
If Timer FO1 = ON Then PM2 PF3
If Timer FOO = OFF Then PM2 PF4
Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 024/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 07/07/00 for PF1
Pmp MODE sD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2
Pmp OSC 50/50/00 for PF2
Pmp MODE SD for PF3
Pmp Int 024/100 for PF3
Pmp OSC 00/07/07 for PF3
Pmp MODE SD for PF4
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF4
Pmp OSC 00/50/50 for PF4

Another option would be to use RND statements to cycle through the modes - it would use fewer timer names as well:

RND 060/60 ON/OFF Then FO1 ON
RND 120/120 ON/OFF Then FO2 ON
If Timer FO1 = ON Then PM1 ON
If Timer FO2 = ON Then PM1 PF1
If Timer FO2 = OFF Then PM1 PF2
If Timer FO1 = OFF Then PM2 ON
If Timer FO2 = ON Then PM2 PF3
If Timer FO2 = OFF Then PM2 PF4

Curt
 
not much experience with doing timing above for waves.. so help me out here. i have 8 foot long tank. each side has one 6100... i can set it up so that i get a wave effect?

do i need to have a total of four streams with a tank this large?

thanks for the help
 
You may want to ask the TUNZE forum; they where quite helpful when I was sizing TUNZE pumps for my 180.

I ended up with 2 6201s (1 at each end of the tank and I get very good water movement) and can generate a wave a bit over 1" if I wanted to but I have toned it down a bit because the larger waves where causing my overflows to become quite noisy.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10836973#post10836973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by einsteins
Verper

do use 1 or 2 Tunzes to utilize that timing?

Here is what I am using...it gets me about a 1 inch wave in my 120.

Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 09/20/00 for PF1
Pmp MODE SD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2
Pmp OSC 00/20/09 for PF2

Thanks

ein
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One 6000. I have been running the other one on regular pulse mode for flow.
 
Thanks

I have another question....is there a way to tie a profile to a feed timer?

so when I feed I can have the pumps settle down a bit.

I tried it but didnt have any luck.

Also doe the depth of the pumps from the surface of the water have any effect on the wave(s)

Thanks again

eins
 
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You may be able to use a "dummy" timer to trigger a profile like this:

DUM#-M01

If Time > 00:00 Then DUM ON
If FeedA 000 Then DUM OFF

If Timer DUM = OFF Then WV1 PF1

Since DUM would only be OFF during the feed cycle it would only change the profile when the feed cycle is active, otherwise (I think) it would revert to your active profile.

Just guessing....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10840720#post10840720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by africangrey
Hi Curt,

Here is my program see if you can help me to ramdamize it a little bet so I can get 1 hour of wave, 1 hour of pmp1 only, 1 hour of pmp2 only, then growing surge.

Thanks.

Spencer

If Timer = 10:30 Then PM1 PF1
If Timer = 23:00 Then PM1 PF2
If Timer = 10:30 Then PM2 PF3
If Timer = 23:00 Then PM2 PF4

Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 024/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 07/07/00 for PF1

Pmp MODE sD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/050 for PF2
Pmp OSC 50/50/00 for PF2

Pmp MODE SD for PF3
Pmp Int 024/100 for PF3
Pmp OSC 00/07/07 for PF3

Pmp MODE SD for PF4
Pmp Int 030/050 for PF4
Pmp OSC 00/50/50 for PF4
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How are the pump names listed in the naming section? I seemed to be having difficulty and would like to try these settings.

thanks
 
apparently i still screwed it up...got this

If Timer = 10:30 Then PM7 PF1 \\ Error: No such timer name
If Timer = 23:00 Then PM7 PF2 \\ Error: No such timer name
If Timer = 10:30 Then PM8 PF3 \\ Error: No such timer name
If Timer = 23:00 Then PM8 PF4 \\ Error: No such timer name

AM i supposed to name the PF1, 2, 3, 4 in the naming section

I used 7 and 8 cause 1-6 are already used for regular pumps
 
I like the instruction examples, but wish u would add how u named them in the naming section...might help some of us noobs
 
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