Tunze vs Ecotech Vortech

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9865264#post9865264 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacmyoung
How does Tunze rock work? I thought it only works if the pump is on the back wall?

You're gonna get thrown out of the TunzeBot Society making posts like that! :lol:

AFAICT there is no mention of needing to be in any particular place.

Well I can't get the link to work. It's under in Turbelle Stream part of the Tunze site.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9865308#post9865308 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
You're gonna get thrown out of the TunzeBot Society making posts like that! :lol:

AFAICT there is no mention of needing to be in any particular place.

Well I can't get the link to work. It's under in Turbelle Stream part of the Tunze site.

Alright I deserve that I guess.

The Tunze rock just attaches to the magnet holder and is suspended along with the pump if I remember correctly.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9864872#post9864872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by James77
I read on several posts that the noise vortechs make are a slight whirring sound. Is it/are they audible throughout the room, or can you only hear them a short distance from them? Is the noise the actual motor itself, or it vibrating on the glass(the glass amplifying it)?

There is a slight whirring noise that you can here when you are close to the tank, but not something that is at all an issue in a quiet room such as a living room where my tank is. The return to the sump is MUCH louder than the whirring noise from the vortech, so honestly I don't notice it at all unless I'm thinking about it. I don't think having one on your viewing pane would be that big of a deal at all. A tunze anywhere in the tank (even a rock) IMO would be much more noticeable than a vortech on the glass. For the amount of flow they produce they are incredibly unobstructive as far as viewing pleasure goes. I highly reccomend vortech over tunze by all means. This is not at all a biased opinion either. I very seriously considered tunze when setting up my tank (in fact I even ordered one and later cancelled it) and since getting the vortech and seeing tunze's on other peoples tanks in person I am SO glad I didn't get any of those huge ugly pumps.
 
I almost bought two Vortechs for each sides of my 90g till my wife pointed out that they would look like the tank had ears. After that I just couldn't get the image of my tank with two black ears out of my head.
I think I'm gonna regret it when the controllers come out though.
 
Just some food for thought...

From a normal viewing angle in front of a 4' long aquarium, you will not actually be able to see the pumps sticking off the side of the aquarium, as the length of the front pane will block your view. Go ahead and try it, you'll understand what I mean.

-Tim
 
That's a really good point Tim, as far as viewing from the front of the tank goes. I considered for quite some time doing an in-viewing room install, and the plan was to have 3 or 4 sides for viewing. In that case I would not have opted for the Vortech, but the Vortech was key in my decision not to do it that way. My other choice would have been an array of Sequence pumps for CLs, but I felt that would be inefficient.

I waited quite a while to get the Vortechs (after designing my system around them) but felt that their design would be good long-term for my reef. I really like the idea of not have all those holes drilled in my tank!

jacmyoung: Doesn't make much sense to have them attached to the tank wall. I don't think that is how they are used.
 
You guys know that you can just go to Radio Shack or the like and buy a PC battery backup (APS for example) and it's exactly the same thing as the battery backup you can get for the Vortech right?

I run my Tunze 6100 on an APC and it works great. I think the battery backup for the vortech is overrated.
 
Waxxiemann-

That's simply not true. A normal UPS costing $150 will not run any pump for 30 hours. Our VorTech and BB system is 'smart' and maximizes the run time of the pump for when you need it most- a power outage.

-Tim
 
My bad, I didn't mean to bring down the heat :furious: :wildone:

Maybe I should rephrase that; the apc backup I got for my tunze system does the job servicably. I can get about 10 hours on it. Nowhere near 30.

Appologies.
 
I guess that's true about the viewing angle, if you are viewing the tank right from the middle, close up, but my sofas are a good 7' from the tank and I could see my mag floats, if I leave em on the side. Oh well...

When I build my in wall system...VorTechs all the way, and by that time, the controllers should be out.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9867483#post9867483 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Waxxiemann
My bad, I didn't mean to bring down the heat :furious: :wildone:

Maybe I should rephrase that; the apc backup I got for my tunze system does the job servicably. I can get about 10 hours on it. Nowhere near 30.

Appologies.

No worries! Just trying to get the truth out there :rollface:

-Tim
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9865264#post9865264 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacmyoung
How does Tunze rock work? I thought it only works if the pump is on the back wall?

The Tunze Rock is simply a ceramic rock with an opening for the Stream's nozzle to fit in. You can put it anywhere you want to in your tank although most users put them on top of their rock-work so the Stream points where they want it to.

James
 
Then no need of magnet holders anymore? If it is just like any other large piece of rock in the tank, I guess I need to look into it again. Thanks for the info.
 
No magnets, but its shaped like a cave and the four "corners" need to rest on rock or substrate. You need several smaller rocks or one fairly large rock to set it on.
 
Re: Tunze vs Ecotech Vortech

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9595197#post9595197 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iamwhatiam52
My 180 has two Seio powerheads, one on each side for flow.
Works fine, but I want to upgrade for more and better distributed flow, adjustable flow and possibly a controller.

Sould I go with Tunze Turbelle Streams or Ecotech Vortechs?

I've never owned a vortech, and I no longer own any Tunzes, but IME, the Tunze is WAY less distributed flow than the SEIOs are. My 6060 had the same outlet size as a seio 820. Pointing it at things was worse than pointing a maxijet at them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9632373#post9632373 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by E-A-G-L-E-S
Their flow is not nearly as concentrated as a mjmod.
Now, if you put any p.h. that pushes 3000gph+ on the back wall of an aquarium that is 24" or less you will have a barebottom front with a deep dsb in the back 75% :)

The concentration of flow in a maximod is competely decided by how the shroud is designed. The Oceanflo type mods will rip the flesh off of everyting in front of them. The ones I have are way more disperse than a Tunze. Its all about how you design them.
 
Just got my first vortech and love it. The spread of the flow is incredible and there is no noticeable noise unless you are within a couple feet of it. Can't wait to get another. Just wish they weren't so damn expensive.
 
Re: Re: Tunze vs Ecotech Vortech

Re: Re: Tunze vs Ecotech Vortech

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9870795#post9870795 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
I've never owned a vortech, and I no longer own any Tunzes, but IME, the Tunze is WAY less distributed flow than the SEIOs are. My 6060 had the same outlet size as a seio 820. Pointing it at things was worse than pointing a maxijet at them.

Keep in mind that a Tunze 6060 is only a little more than a modded Tunze Nano6025, to compare it to vortech or 6100/6200 is totally unfair.

MJMods were good work by the DIYers and many of us tried and benefited from them, but give it a rest now, its time has passed.
 
I have a pair of vortech's on the side panels of my tank - 8' long.
About the only thing i don't like is the heavy duty (guess it's necessary) power cord that is running up and across the top of the tank rim. At least my cap disguises it a bit, boy it would be great if the cord wasn't as noticeable. I will say that overall, it's worth the extra lines - the actual motor unit doesn't bother me at all. I might try the pumps on the back wall, but really think they're more effective on the sides of my tank.
 
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