ok i'm kinda weary when it come to building things for my tank but my nitrates and phos would never drop to zero sooo i built a turf scrubber and also put some cheato down in the bottom of the bucket to and at the time i removed my protein skimmer and put it on an 55 gallon because i made a purchase of live rock that needed curing but about two weeks later i tested my water and noticed hmm my nitrates are down a lil now a month later my nitrates are less that 5ppm down from 30ppm and the phos is 0ppm down from 1.0ppm i couldnt belive it i thought something was wrong and tested my water again and has anyone else every ran a skimmerless reef tank because my tank is not having any problems running without it sorry for running my mouth (actually fingers) just been trying to get my water right for a while now.