two gold striped Maroons...

[tycham]

Ever since I saw one I've wanted a pair of the gold striped Maroon Clowns, by that time we already had a pair of False Perculas. We now have a second tank so today we bought two...they are young., about 1.5 inches &.still white striped...but they are definitely fighting. Any chance it will be a duel to the death or should I remove one of them?...Its a 100 gallon tank with plenty of rock for hiding, but neigher of them seem to want to hide.
Thanks,
Romayne

 

[tycham]

ok, found the link that says that this is NOT the way to develop a pair with the Maroons...so one has gone into the refusium for now. Bummer. All the reading I did before said as long as you got them young and at the same time, it should work.

 

[IslandCrow]

I don't think it's impossible to get maroons to pair off this way, just not nearly as likely as it is with other clowns. There's usually at least some fighting until one submits. If it looks like either one is getting seriously hurt, though, you definitely want to keep them separated and probably bring one back. You could always get a larger maroon and try to pair it off with the smaller. I was talking to the owner of my LFS, and he says he's had great success pairing a larger maroon with a smaller one that's already established in the tank.

 

[tycham]

Thanks, I'm going to see if they have a larger one in stock tomorrow...otherwise, I'll wait til this one is bigger and then get a juvenile and try that.

 

[stykthyn]

sounds like a good move. Maroons are gorgeous, especially when they turn that dark whine color

 

[IslandCrow]

You may not want to get a bigger one quite yet. Let the small one get established first. The theory behind this is that the smaller one's established and when you add a bigger fish, it's the newbie and less likely to attack the established, smaller fish. The one potential flaw I see in this theory is that there are many that state that maroons will fight until one of them submits. I could see this making the smaller of the two less likely to submit. Of course, the guy at my LFS swears by this method, and he's pared far more maroons than me.

If you go with getting a larger fish in the near future, I'd isolate the smaller guy so that they can both see each other, but can't reach each other. Once it looks like the bigger one isn't going to kill the little guy, let the small one out and see how it goes. This seems to work for quite a few people.

 

[jtemple42000]

I got these already paired. The dance they do is great to watch and they are never far from each other.

I have read that you can put one in a deifferent tank and place the two tank next to each other. The fish will eventually get use to seeing each other and will calm down a bit. Then you can try to put them together again.

 

[dantodd]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7574533#post7574533 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IslandCrow
it's the newbie and less likely to attack the established, smaller fish. The one potential flaw I see in this theory is that there are many that state that maroons will fight until one of them submits.

This is really not the way most reported pairings have been done.

I could see this making the smaller of the two less likely to submit. Of course, the guy at my LFS swears by this method, and he's pared far more maroons than me.

I think you can bank on your LFS guy having none to very little experience paring premnas...


The entire point to the current theory on pairing premans is to ensure that one is completely cowed by the other. Once they decide that they are not going to submit they will fight to the death. Not always but more often than not. You want the smaller fish as outclassed as possible. I would return the fish in your display and replace it with a large fish. After a couple days put the little guy from the sump back in the tank following the separation techniques outlined in the paring FAQ.

 

[IslandCrow]

Man, I'm jealous. I'm still on the search for a juvenile GSM to pair with the female that I have. She's very well mannered for a maroon, so I have high hopes. I originally bought two together, because my LFS didn't realize that maroons weren't like other clowns, and you can't just throw two juveniles together and expect them to get along.

 

[AJF]

I have a question, about the ''personality'' of your maroons, are they agressive with other tankmates? do they choose a part of the aquarium and u can't put corals there because they will throw them away?
thanks

 

[jtemple42000]

My clowns keep to themselves. They are hosting in a African Yellow Sebae. I have a pom pom xenia just above them and they do not touch it. For the most part they do not wonder out of this one part of the tank. Every once in a while my Blue Chin trigger will get close to the clowns and swim around, but they do not seem threatened by him. They swim up to my hand when I put it in the tank. The only fish that caused any poblems was my yellow damsel. It had a problem with the female and nibbled off a lot of her tail. It, the damsel, has since been removed.