Unconventional treatment of a sick Gigantea

OrionN

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As some of you may have know, one of my Gigantea got sick last week before I go on vacation. Because I am not here to treat him, I tried a different way of treatment and it seem to have good chance of success.

What happened was that I went to a Japanese restaurant for sushi last week. I bought back two slides of fresh tuna in my "fishy bag" for the anemones. Chopping them up in a cutting board, I took the whole board into my fish room to feed my 7 anemones in the large tank. After feeding three of the 7 anemones, I was clumsy and knock the whole cutting board into my skimmer waste container (a five gallon salt bucket) next to the tank. I fish the four pieces of tuna out of that bucket and wash it multiple times in fresh water. After judging that the tuna was fine (my mistake) I fed the remaining 4 anemones with the 4 pieces of tuna.
The next day one of the four deflated later in the day. He did it again the next 2 days. Deflated three days in roll just not normal for my Gigantea. The other five Gigantea and the lone Haddoni were all fine. This is two days before I go on vacation for 5 days.
I took him to another system, he again deflated the next day. Instead of risking him dying and kill all the coral in that system, I decided to set up a treatment tank for him. Not having much time, I decided to treat him with a much more aggressive treatment regiment.

I put him in my hospital tank, with the same light I used before. I put the whole live rock with him because I don't want to stress him more and the rock was just impossible to easy remove him from. You will see when you see the picture.
The first night I treat him with 500 mg Cipro in 10 gal of water. The next day, he seem a little better and the water was crystal clear. Instead of change the water, I just added 250 mg Cipro to it right before I went on vacation for 5 days. I have a tank sitter and ask him to text me a picture of the anemone every time he come to feed the tank.
This was 4/12. I did not take any picture prior to treatment.

Here is picture on 4/13 about 5 PM

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4/15. Pictures on 4/14 and 4/16 day time is about the same as this.

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4/16 When i got home last night

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I did a 100% water change and add 250 mg Cipro last night. The anemone looks great tonight. I did a 50% water change and add 250 mg Cipro tonight. Here is a picture right before I did the water change at about 9 PM

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Wish me luck. I think this anemone will make it. I OD him with antibiotic and this seem to help keep the infection at bay until I return home to treat him. I did not want to ask my tank sitter to treat the anemone also. I think this was the best I could have done. It seem to have work in this case
 

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Nice work. Nothing's wrong and I'm going on a 4 day vacation soon. Is it Murphy's law that something will happen right when we leave or right after?

Anyway, you basically did a nice loading dose of cipro initially, it gets the internal levels up to par faster like an IV or double dose to start antibiotics on people with severe infections.
 
Minh, the fact you have so many Gigs lends you to have more experiences than the rest of us...

I really think your original treatment plan is a conservative repeatable procedure, while what you just did (while it might work just fine) might not be ideal for all of them. Like humans, some larger people can tolerate larger doses of antibiotics while young people cannot.

So what I'm trying to say is, the whole procedure is a crap shoot and the more advanced treatments left to the advanced more dedicated person, while doing the slow and steady cipro approach is probably better for the masses.

Thanks for documenting this, and I hope not to be cipro'ing too often...
 
I may celebrate too early. Will see how he does. I front load the treatment because I know that I will be gone for 5 days. Hope to keep the level of medication in the tank long enough so he won't deteriorate while I am gone. When I get back I can always resume treatment.
Without treatment, I think he is a goner anyway IMO.
 
This is the first anemone that I have to retreat. That was just stupidity in my part. From now on I will never feed my anemone anything I would not eat. Hind sight is 20/20. I thought that washing the tuna well after drop it into a bucket full of bacterial is good enough. It is obviously not. I would not eat contaminated food like that. From now on I will really stick to my rule.

Anyway, here is a picture today. I will do change at about 9PM. He certainly looks well to me. I will treat him for the rest of the week, then observe him for a few days before put him back into the DT. MT QT is well suit to keep anemone long term as long as I don't feed them (other than a little low in light)



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He is looking a lot better than he did. How big is the gig when it is fully inflated?
 
Nice recovery, and great point/reminder on the importance of what we are feeding our animals.
I too would have never given it a second thought on the bacteria issue.
I guess the 5 second rule may not apply to the funk that comes from our skimmers!
 
Doing great. Picture tonight before water change

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I did not added medication last night after 100% water change. He is doing well. Not deflated for the last week. Just in time too because I got a new sick Haddoni. I got it fairly cheap because it have been deflating is somebody's tank, and he brought it to one of the LFS. I was told that the original owner got this anemone from the local Petco.
So The Gigantea go back to the DT and the new bright green Haddoni go to the HT.

Here is my new Green Haddoni

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Glad to hear your gig is doing well... Nice haddoni. I hope it pulls through. I just did 500mg of cipro on my new blue gig two days in a row and now its dead. Thanks a lot. Jk its doing really great. I don't think it makes a difference in 250-500mg but I would only recommend it if the nem is really stress and absolutely looks like he needs a stronger dosage. That is where one would have to make the call themselves.
 
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