Use your GFIs....please

oneradtek202

Pitcher Hill Reef Society
So i was a very irresponsible reef-tard for teh last few years. I used a GFI for a long time because i didnt want to kill myself or burn my house down. But unfortunately it was tripping for some reason a long time ago ( because of a faulty powerhead i later found out.) well i got used to not using it, and before long forgot i even had it.....until last night.

for the last few days i kept smelling something getting stronger and stronger, i smelled like something was burning, but i looked all over and could never find out what it was......well last night i found out, and if this went on any longer i think i could have started a fire......

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so please, use a GFI for your tanks.....i spent all day today redoing my electrical with GFI's
 
for me i think 1 or the other. either a overloaded circuit with cheap parts....or salty splash got up there and caused it to short and start melting....

either way, a gfi would have caught that and tripped
 
From your pictures it looks like the damage is between the Main prongs and not to ground prong. If that is true then a GFCI may not have detected the Issue. However it shows a more than obvious Arc Flash damage and an AFCI would have absolutely detected the Issue.

A GFCI trips when there is a current unbalance between the Hot and Neutral, If there is no current going to ground then a GFCI will not likely trip. A AFCI will detect the energy levels spiking during the Arc and trip.

Now days a GFCI is required on all bedrooms for new construction. I recommend spending the $35 and install one in your breaker box for your tank. For $65 you can get a combo GFCI and AFCI.
 
I think it's AFCI that's required for bedrooms, GFCI for bathrooms and kitchens. I agree though, that looks like an arc fault.

Do they sell AFCI wall outlets? I can't find any, just circuit breakers.
 
Based on the photo, I'm willing to bet it was related to direct contact with saltwater. Either way, glad you caught it early on!
 
+1 to just buying a GFCI circuit breaker. NYS requires AFCI breakers in all new construction bedrooms and GFCI outlets or breakers for bathrooms.
 
Don't use a single GFCI

Don't use a single GFCI

I agree that this failure may not have been detected by a GFCI device. I disagree that a single GFCI should be used to protect your reef. BeanAnimal has a very good article on his website regarding this. Because I'm lazy, and because his article is so good I'm just going to quote the article rather than paraphrase it.

BeanAnimal said:
http://www.beananimal.com/articles/electricity-for-the-reefer.aspx

GFCI WHY?

A Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) is a device designed to protect against electric shock. The GFCI operates by sensing the difference between the currents in the Hot and Neutral conductors. Under normal conditions, these should be equal. If a person should come in contact with the live (HOT) wire and a path to ground, current would begin to flow through the body and therefore create in imbalance with the Neutral conductors current. The GFCI senses this imbalance (uneven current) and trips, cutting off power to the load side of the GFCI and protecting the person from shock.

An aquarium is the perfect place for a GFCI. Imagine a heater or submersible pump that has allowed water to leak into the electrical components. The Hot wire is now exposed to the tank water. When you place your hand in the water you are in essence touching the hot wire. If any other part of your body is in contact with a grounded object (reflectors, equipment, concrete floors, etc), current will begin to flow through your body! This can easily be a deadly situation and why a GFCI is an essential piece of equipment. A grounding probe added to the system can enhance the level of protection offered by a GFCI, this will be discussed in the grounding probe section of this article.

It is very important to understand that a GFCI does NOT protect against ungrounded shocks! That is, if a person contacts the HOT and NEUTRAL conductors, the current will flow through the body but still show as balanced to the GFCI. In this scenario, the body has become part of the load!

Many reefers incorporate a single GFCI into their setups and then plug all of their equipment into it. In a similar fashion, some reefers replace the standard circuit breaker in the service panel with a GFCI circuit breaker. A single faulting piece of equipment (or a nuisance trip) will result in loss of power to all of the equipment connected to the GFCI (or circuit in the case of a GFCI breaker). Both GFCI receptacles and GFCI circuit breakers are also susceptible to nuisance tripping. Ballast and motor loads create a complex signature that sometimes confuses GFCIs into thinking a fault has occurred.

It is a good idea to separate important equipment among multiple GFCIs. In doing so, a single faulting piece of equipment (or nuisance trip) will only result in an isolated outage instead of a tank wide shutdown. You CAN NOT daisy chain GFCI receptacles by connecting a GFCI in series with the LOAD terminals of another GFCI. They will not operate as expected and will certainly cause problems. However, you can safely wire GFCI receptacles in parallel! Parallel GFCI receptacles will operate as expected when wired in parallel. Click on the schematic drawing to the left to see an example. The drawing depicts three GFCI receptacles wired in parallel. The 3rd unit has a standard (slave) receptacle wired to its load terminals. The standard receptacle is protected by GFCI #3. Slave receptacles (also know as downstream receptacles) can be added to any of the GFCI units and multiple GFCI units can be paralleled. The use of a ground probe is recommended and will be covered later in this article. Protect yourself and your family, implement GFCI protection on your tank!


AFCI WHY NOT?

Arc Fault Circuit Interrupters are designed to detect the electrical signature caused by electricity arcing someplace in the circuit. If arcing is detected, the AFCI breaker trips and removes power from the circuit. At first glance the AFCI appears to be a perfect candidate for fish tanks. Where there is water and electricity, there is a significant chance of arcing type fires. The problem is that AFCI breakers have a well deserved bad reputation for nuisance tripping when posed with a complex load such as a motor or ballast. An AFCI would add significant safety to a fish tank setup, but would also expose the livestock to a much higher greater risk of nuisance induced power outages. Most AFCI breakers also incorporate a GFCI into the device. A single GFCI used to power your tank (as mentioned above) is not a good idea. If you do not use AFCI circuit breakers (or the newer AFCI receptacles) then please take the precautions to prevent arcing type fires. That means taking precautions to protect power strips and other devices that will be exposed to moisture, drips and salt creep.
 
Good write-up, however, how plausible is it to install multiple GFCI outlets near the tank for most? Impossible for myself.
 
Good write-up, however, how plausible is it to install multiple GFCI outlets near the tank for most? Impossible for myself.

Easier than you think. Put a two gang box in the wall, and use two GFCI receptacles wired in parallel. They'll operate independently as Bean describes.

If you have a single gang box near your fish tank, this does entail cutting the hole in the drywall a little larger and putting a new box in, but it's not really that hard. Even if you hired an electrician to do this, it would probably be rather cheap in the grand scheme of a reef tank budget.
 
Even if you hired an electrician to do this, it would probably be rather cheap in the grand scheme of a reef tank budget.

Also it will be cheaper than losing all of your house. These types of things are a pain in the butt to do but it is sooooo worth it!

Quite the catch Brandon, glad you caught it in time!
 
You can also easily create your own "Power Strips" with a four gang box as BeanAnimal describes in another part of his article on the page I linked. You can also use in-line GFCI cordsets plugged into each outlet you want to protect. I am planning a custom electrical panel with several independent GFCI's for each of the critical components like pumps, and heaters, and a separate GFCI with slaved outlets for less critical components like the lights. Bottom line, only you can decide what level of protection that you want to employ. I just think it would be tragic if someone were to have a problem based on incomplete information.

Easier than you think. Put a two gang box in the wall, and use two GFCI receptacles wired in parallel. They'll operate independently as Bean describes.

If you have a single gang box near your fish tank, this does entail cutting the hole in the drywall a little larger and putting a new box in, but it's not really that hard. Even if you hired an electrician to do this, it would probably be rather cheap in the grand scheme of a reef tank budget.
 
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