uuugh zoa pox! i need some help please :(

sabazerehi

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i just noticed a mini outbreak of zoa pox in my main display tank. my temp has been stable as far as i can tell and i do understand it tends to occur at this time of year. i actually dealt with zoa pox a few weeks ago and treated all the affected colonies with furan 2, while the pox seemed to go away the treatment didn't seem to do much to save my remaining zoas. also for the past few weeks i've been dosing vitamin c which from my understanding is supposed to help with zoa pox as well. i have about a 50g total volume, and i've been adding a teaspoon twice a day (sorry don't know the ppm), should i increase the amount of vit c i'm adding? should i try dipping all the zoas again? is there any other effective treament? like lugol's, or a uv sterilizer? my lfs has a product called furanase that they said is the same as furan, anyone have experience with it? i'm ready to do what i need to, i just need some experienced advice. thanks!
 
I've had great sucess adding vitamin C to the tank for this.

Dosing Vitamin C Chart

Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-7152293197697039798
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).

To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.

Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.

You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.

For every 100 gallons:

5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC

After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.



Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do not dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.

Be sure to take some "before" pics!
 
so according to this i should be dosing 2.5 tsp if i have a 100g, so in reality i should being doing 1.25 for my tank. i'm already doing 1 so i guess that's not that big of a jump. just out of curiosity, why did i get zoa pox in the first place because i've been dosing vit c for awhile now? thanks pufferpunk
 
ya i just bought some new radioactive dragon eyes and they might be the culprit, but i split the colony with a friend and his tank is fine. guess i got the lucky half!
 
Good link 650. The part below was particularly enlightening for me:

"Temp:
Keep in mind; during the treatment I slowly increase my temp from 78 to 81-82. Furan works best in higher heat. But I would not go over 82. In freshwater I bump it up to 84-86 for Furan treatment against fungus. "


Odd that it's an increase in temp that he finds effective along with the furan 2. He doesn't recommend a too much higher temp, but he notes the temp should be raised.
Interesting that zoa pox is thought by many to be seasonally related, because of heat i assume (correct me if i'm wrong here).
Yet the Furan 2 works more effectively when the temp is higher.
Very impressive photos the dude has of the pox beign eradicated.
Thanks again for the link.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14854518#post14854518 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
I've had great sucess adding vitamin C to the tank for this.

Dosing Vitamin C Chart

Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-7152293197697039798
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).

To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.

Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.

You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.

For every 100 gallons:

5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC

After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.



Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do not dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.

Be sure to take some "before" pics!

thanks for the info just ordered some!
 
like wise dealing with some pox,
sab did you start with 1 tsp or did your work your way up and do you dose 2 times a day???
My total volume is about the same as yours and I'm dosing 1/4tsp twice a day and have yet to see it do anything. Should I up the dosage??? to 1 tsp???
 
I would always dose 2x/day (or as often as every 8 hours) & get your dosage up to 50ppm to treat pox. Be sure you have a working skimmer on there.
 
Hi Puff
Sorry for the dumb question lol, could you give me a idea how much 50ppm would be in tsp wise??? I'm pretty lame at math ><
Thanks
 
For every 100 gallons according to Pufferpunk

1/4tsp~1112 mg~2.93ppm

1 tsp~4448mg ~ 11.72ppm

so for every 1 gallon
1ppm =3.784mg
5ppm = 18.92mg
10ppm = 37.84mg
15ppm=56.76mg
20ppm=75.68mg
25ppm=94.6mg
30ppm=113.52mg

So simply multiply the weight of what ever the ppm you want to achieve to the number of your total net volume of your tank (no rock and sand) and there you go your dosage

Well hope this help Not trying to be smart A$$ though just trying to make it easier.
 
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My wife has zoa pox in her nano tank (Biocube 14). I'm thinking of going the Furan 2 route for treatment. My LFS has this and it comes in 10 little baggies of the powder...how much would you use per treatment? I believe the best way would be to take each individual colony out and dip them but am unsure how much of the Furan to use?
 
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