virgen reefer needs advice on filter

[SCOTT42]

Ok it's good that it's still standing, take a good look all the way around the bottom edge of the tank, make shore there is no sagging on the front and back bottom of tank and stand, and watch it for a few day's,good solid oak stand you should be ok.

 

[foodstamp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10796321#post10796321 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tmz
I'd use two for safety sake if one siphon breaks the other can still keep your floor dry. Also stay away from the continuous siphon type overflows the siphon fails frequently. If your buying a box use the j tube type. If you are going to dyi, why not drill the tank and avoid the external overflow boxes. if you drill it or have it drilled you can use one internal box on either side or in the center and have two holes in the glass at the back of the box. Two holes work like two overflows and provide a safety in case one gets clogged for some unknow reason.

i dont wanna chance drilling into 1/4" glass......
i cant find anyone that wants to chance drilling it i have called around that was my first option..... even the guy at my lfs was like good luck finding someone.....

im not worry'd about flooded floors......... i have a plan for that

 

[SCOTT42]

Wet/dry vac and plenty towels.

 

[foodstamp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10796391#post10796391 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Ok it's good that it's still standing, take a good look all the way around the bottom edge of the tank, make shore there is no sagging on the front and back bottom of tank and stand, and watch it for a few day's,good solid oak stand you should be ok.

so far no sagging i was checking as i added water.... i allso looked at it pretty good befor i bought it my dad is a skilled cabinet worker i kinda know wood to a degree. i could probly dropkick it and it would not budge.... i did add some screws as it was nail'd with tiny finishing nails and not glued!!!! i did that be for i even got it from the tallgate of the truck....

 

[SCOTT42]

Should be ok, did you get a matching canopy with tank/stand?

 

[foodstamp]

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[foodstamp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10796444#post10796444 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Wet/dry vac and plenty towels.

something we use in hydroponics
if i put one of them in the overflow box to turn off the pump if the siphon is broken i should be ok we allso use the for topping off i have s few laying around

 

[foodstamp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10796496#post10796496 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Should be ok, did you get a matching canopy with tank/stand?

no me and my dad are going to build one for it

 

[SCOTT42]

That's a new one to me,as far as the siphon go's never herd of it before.

 

[foodstamp]

this is how it works in hydro....
it would have to be remade to our needs but would be very easy

 

[SCOTT42]

When you get it complete take pics of it, Id like to see this. But let me ask you this, do you know how a overflow work's with the refuguim and return pump?

 

[foodstamp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10796589#post10796589 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
When you get it complete take pics of it, Id like to see this. But let me ask you this, do you know how a overflow work's with the refuguim and return pump?

from waht i have gathered this is how it works....

water into overflowbox side#1 up "U tube" (or other method) by means of siphon into overflowbox side#2 then most have a "prefilter" befor it enter the 1" drain tube into oneside of the sump ( lets call it chamber 1) most ppl skim at this location be for it enters the "bubbletraps" witch is on most sumps i see 3 sheets of acrylic stagered (1st & 3rd are touching the bottem) the 2nd ( center one) is touching the top 1" away from the bottem.

how am i doing so far?

afterwater flows frrom the 3rd sheet of the bubbletrap its is entered into a "refuguim" ( or chamber 2 ) out of the refuguim into a 2nd set of "bubble traps" witch leads to a 3rd chamber or "return pump" feeding back to the tank witch then lets or siphon keep going.....

trust me all take pic's...... and do a dyi on it full thread

 

[SCOTT42]

Look's like you got, I guess that im haveing a hard time understanding the whole overflow switch thing. I've never seen it before. Well how's the tank doing? skimmer still pulling out a lot of funk?

 

[tmz]

Don't understand how you will protect against a siphon break flood with that device but it would be very interesting and noteworthy to see hydnophonics technology brought into play in this hobby. Good Luck and please keep us posted.

 

[SCOTT42]

It's not that real good Jamaican salt water is it?

 

[foodstamp]

It's not that real good Jamaican salt water is it?

jamaica cant touch northen cali purp algee :bum:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10803910#post10803910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Look's like you got, I guess that im haveing a hard time understanding the whole overflow switch thing. I've never seen it before. Well how's the tank doing? skimmer still pulling out a lot of funk?

Don't understand how you will protect against a siphon break flood with that device but it would be very interesting and noteworthy to see hydnophonics technology brought into play in this hobby. Good Luck and please keep us posted

:strooper:

1st off let me mak sure i got this right witch i think i do... when u have a flood from siphon brake its the tank over flowing not the sump? the sump would over flow when u have a pump go out or power outage witch is fixed by having a sump that can handle the extra water untell the siphon is lost by means of tank not refilling...

let me explan a lil how the "controller bucket" works.....
as u see theres 4 flotes & 2 pump's.... ( 1 for fill & 1 for the return) the reason u use 2 flotes per pump is to keep them from click the pump on off on off from water movment..( saves ur pump and it bugs the hell outa ya hear'n click click click click.........

for what we will be doing here i dont think we need 4 we should be able to get away with 2..... i have seen a few sumps with them and a dyi for auto topping off so im not going to go in much detail on that just yet i will when i start building....

but for the siphon part this is how it would work.
in the overflowbox the flote would allwas be on ( up ) once the siphon broke there would nolonger be water in the overflow box this making the floteswitch down ( off ) witch switchs the pump off there for your tank would not have water pumped into it any more making no flood..............

understand now?

 

[foodstamp]

yeah the skimmer still pullin funk out

when i got home today from work i had two box's setting on my doorstep one had my 2new pumps

and the other had my new bulb's i got both pumps in and i have 1 light on for now the other will go up as soon as my acrylic gets here i order'd 2 strips for the top of the tank i can see where water was splashing on the lights & leaving salt on the hoods from the ppl that ownd it befor me & the 2 nite lites on both hoods dont work so im gonna order them tonite....

allso order'd 25pounds of live fugi rock that should be here tuesday or wensday they wont ship tell monday cuz it will set over the weekend witch i thought was kinda cool of them i can wait...

i stopd by a lfs thats in the town i work at and the guy there is way cool he tested my water for me hooked me up with everything that im gonna need for inside my sump/refugium for free gave me a big bag full of rockrubble micro algee i see a bunch of orange worms and a few other new pets....

 

[tmz]

I'm not clear about : how you would maintain a constant level in the overflow box,or wether the switch would even fit in there. The overflow has two chanbers. There is a chamber where the u tube goes and the water level in here remains constant siphon on or off. I overflows from this chamber into another from which it enters the drain. This chamber has variable levels usually close to none unless you use a standpipe but even them levels could vary for a variety of reasons.

 

[SCOTT42]

FOODSTAMP, Before you go thrue the trouble of using the switch, do some more homework on overflow box's. What you are doing is pointles, It will be a pain in the !!!,so to speak. Over flow box's are so simple in there operation,that if you have every thing installed corretly you will not have a siphon break. I have been using them for three year's, and not a problem at all. And to be onest, your going to probly have your hand's full doing and learning other stuff, And fooling with something like that will just consume time,effort and money,when you could use those resorces elsewhere. I not trying to rain on your paraid,but think about it. Why fix something that's not broke.