Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
Not Spazz...Thats all I will say for now.
Volcano club
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Reefaquariumnut
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just did, sorry
We all know whose drawings they are. The guy's who manufactures the funny shaped skimmers that are not very popular.
Is it his attitude or the shape of the skimmer for such popularity?
Never understood why he has to attack another brand to build his business, to sell his skimmers. First he attacked KZ skimmers now Volcanos; drawings of modified BKs, deltecs looking like ATBs are on their way.
Nobody appreciates such attitude as does ATB sales.
I am starting a new thread "ATB club" for ATB lovers, dealers, and for future ATB customers and wishing them a good luck.
Is it his attitude or the shape of the skimmer for such popularity?
Never understood why he has to attack another brand to build his business, to sell his skimmers. First he attacked KZ skimmers now Volcanos; drawings of modified BKs, deltecs looking like ATBs are on their way.
Nobody appreciates such attitude as does ATB sales.
I am starting a new thread "ATB club" for ATB lovers, dealers, and for future ATB customers and wishing them a good luck.
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Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
Maybe you are confusing attacking for friendly competition. My skimmer is junk the way it sits right now. Since I can't get help from the creator I asked for help from anyone with a innovative, out-of-the box train of thought. It seems like you have jelousy in your voice...
Ps- I have not decided what plan of attack I am going with. I am looking for ideas and go from there
Ps- I have not decided what plan of attack I am going with. I am looking for ideas and go from there
JRaquatics
New member
Check out Reefaquariumnuts' build. Definitely not Hans. You can see some real innovative things incorporated in his build designed and fabricated by Spazz.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1259757
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Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
Yup, I'm hahn. Smart. Real smart.
Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
Its like spending 200k on a ferrari with no motor...u gotta get it running. Spend more money.
lvpd186
Reefing in NE
At first I thought he was bringing up Hann feeding info in to this thread even though he was told not to, but to accuse you of being Hann was kind of funny.
As for the cone idea how would you go about doing that? A cone of the size that would fit these skimmers would probably be very expensive &/or hard to make. Would a better approach be to work on the pump aspect? Since Tom is a friend of mine I've been lurking this thread for a while hopeing that he would find a fix. All in all I think it would be less expensive to try and solve why the pump, venturi, etc. isn't working. Maybe a closer look at the reeflo would help?
JRaquatics
New member
From what I have heard from acrylic fabricators is that cones are really not that hard to make, just time consuming and expensive. Using a cone is just one idea of decreasing the water volume to decrease head pressure. I am also pondering the idea of decreasing the size (width) of the bubble chamber, the need for a new pin wheel and possibly a more efficient venturi.
JRaquatics
New member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13385427#post13385427 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CMcNeil
it can be done and not as expensive as you think,here is an example
That's a nice looking skimmer. Do you have any other shots of it or information?
lvpd186
Reefing in NE
I remember reading about making one a long time ago (can't find the link anymore), but I asked my brother about it (he owns and runs a CNC machine shop). He said it would be difficult making a large cone, although he doesn't do that kind of fabrication very often. I would think there would be a way to get these things running with out cutting them up (at least not too bad).
CMcNeil - that looks great! was that a DIY or purchase? Any other info to share?
reefrubble
Premium Member
That is one very impressive looking skimmer .
Mr James
Premium Member
I am not waiting for Hahn or anyone else to try it out first. I am going to try some stuff with the skimmer I have. Hahn said my skimmer isn't really a Volcano and I really shouldn't be posting here, but I am going to anyway. Spazz said it was a Volcano, so I guess it is, since he built it. It sounds like the current Volcano models have the body and the pump. Both are in question as to their capabilities.
My skimmer has a 12" diameter and is 25.5" tall. I have 4 x OR3700's on it now. I am going to try a Laguna pump with a special volute. Another member has let me borrow his flow meter. I plan to test alopng thew way. (***If you need it back, just PM me and I will get it back to you.***) And/or, I may try between 1 and 4 separate Sicce pumps. We'll see.
I don't believe the (body) conical body is the answer. Or may not totally be the answer. I bet it has something to do with the engine (pump).
Anyone remember much of what Bill Wann tried on his skimmers?? I'm going to wade through the posts regarding the early stages of these skimmers and see what I can dig up.
lvpd186
Reefing in NE
Mr James - so what if it didn't come with a volcano sticker, I agree with you, it was made be the same person after all. I hope you keep posting here I would be very interested to see if the switch to a single laguna pump can solve some of the issues. As for the current pump I would love to see a side-by-side comparison with the needle wheel off of a reeflo skimmer. From what I have read those things rock.
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