Volcano club
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tom obrecht
Active member
I think he hopes everything just "disappears". I know of at least one person who lost his deposit.
Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
Can you say "lawsuit"??? I'm going to make his world so messed up he won't be able to buy a clock radio on credit!
tom obrecht
Active member
[Spazz did not get "moved on". He changed his title on his own, I reset it for himI think he wanted to give the impression that he got booted from here which he did not.
Sounds like something he would do.
Reefaquariumnut: Time to calm down and move on. You have been heard. Everyone who reads this thread knows how you feel about Volcano skimmers and has heard your story. Continuing to bash them will only make you look like the villain.
Perhaps this thread could become a place for help and service of those who still own a volcano. It would seem more productive to help out current owners who will now have no customer service.
Jeff
Perhaps this thread could become a place for help and service of those who still own a volcano. It would seem more productive to help out current owners who will now have no customer service.
Jeff
Mr James
Premium Member
I agree. That's why it was moved from the Vendor's forum back here. A Moderator really needs to speak up here and call this thread to order. I enjoy reading about the possible fixes, no matter who it is from. Case in point, Klaus, who made some good suggestions. Once again, let's all work together to keep this thread moving forward and not get it closed.
jknecht
Member
What about those of us who lost deposits? Should we just sit back and take it; I don't think so! Right now I'm out my deposit of $1626.00. Which he refuses to refund. I quess no one should be upset though, we should just move on. I guess we could always start another thread in Vendor Experiences.
It sucks that you lost your deposit. I'd be ****ed too. That is what the vendor's forum is used for. Make a thread there and detail your story to prevent it happening to others. This thread is currently in the equipment forum. I'm sure there are people out there who could use some help with their volcano's and this thread, in this forum, seems like a good place for that.
Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
He is not a vendor. So why put our experiences in thast forum. A club is a place to voice your opinion as well as talk about equipment.
The problem I have about hacking up the current skimmer is what will happen when you cut the tube...Its not a "real" tube, but a couple sheets curved and welded together. That creates a very realistic problem.
Also, If you make a replacement tube (cone or not) you are adding cost and adding different variables such as can the same venturi be used, air pump, diffuser plate, motor, needle wheel.
My point was that I have the money for the fixes, but not the time. Also, if i spent the money i was in no way guaranteed a successful skimmer.
I choose to go with a proven product and let someone else with more time deal with my skimmer and hopefull he can find a fix. I am going to do a bigger tank in a few months so I will need another skimmer.
Its always funny how those who have no money or time involved "chime" in and voice their opinion.
The problem I have about hacking up the current skimmer is what will happen when you cut the tube...Its not a "real" tube, but a couple sheets curved and welded together. That creates a very realistic problem.
Also, If you make a replacement tube (cone or not) you are adding cost and adding different variables such as can the same venturi be used, air pump, diffuser plate, motor, needle wheel.
My point was that I have the money for the fixes, but not the time. Also, if i spent the money i was in no way guaranteed a successful skimmer.
I choose to go with a proven product and let someone else with more time deal with my skimmer and hopefull he can find a fix. I am going to do a bigger tank in a few months so I will need another skimmer.
Its always funny how those who have no money or time involved "chime" in and voice their opinion.
Reefaquariumnut
Premium Member
Wolrey,
Who are you? Why do you even care and why are you telling me to calm down? How bout you give me $3000 and I will give you my skimmer...You may have some comeback that says "I don't need or want that junk"...Exactly, either did I.
Who are you? Why do you even care and why are you telling me to calm down? How bout you give me $3000 and I will give you my skimmer...You may have some comeback that says "I don't need or want that junk"...Exactly, either did I.
OK folks Here is the deal. This thread is discussing and troubleshooting the skimmer and not a vendor forum. Let's keep the discussion on helping those looking for help or sharing their observations with this skimmer.
As far as I am concerned, spazz has disappeared for some time and has made it obvious he doesn't want to be involved here. So, with that, let's get the discussion back on track.
Posts commenting on spazz or his lack of customer service will be deleted. If you want to start a thread in the Vendor Experience Forum that is fine, but let's get this one back on track.
Here is the deal. This thread is discussing and troubleshooting the skimmer and not a vendor forum. Let's keep the discussion on helping those looking for help or sharing their observations with this skimmer. As far as I am concerned, spazz has disappeared for some time and has made it obvious he doesn't want to be involved here. So, with that, let's get the discussion back on track.
Posts commenting on spazz or his lack of customer service will be deleted. If you want to start a thread in the Vendor Experience Forum that is fine, but let's get this one back on track.
hahnmeister
In Memoriam
Thats why I suggested maybe starting a different thread... leave this one in the vendor experiences forum, and then start a new one for 'club/support' in the DIY or Equipment section.
Just curious, but along those lines: Nanook, is it possible to split a thread into two like that and move that fragment to another forum? This thread started as a regular 'club' thread... then moved onto a 'vendor experiences', and then bounces back and forth between that and a 'DIY idea' thread. If there was a way to seperate the last part of 'solutions & support' from 'vendor experiences' with a sensible break... that might be a good way to keep things in line. That way, those who want to talk about experiences can do so in the vendor experiences area, and those who want to talk solutions can do so w/o incurring protest from those who believe its just to 'defame' the vendor.
Or are we going with the whole idea that the vendor is dead so the vendor experiences part is as well? If so, then just delete my post here...lol. I hope that people can stick to the DIY topic though.
And I know Im in a 'grey area' here with my restrictions... I am suggesting solutions based on what I think will work, but I know its hard to see it as 100% unbiased depending on what the design of those suggestions are. So if I get too close to that line, just let me know and I'll ease up. Im not going to push it, but I cant exactly guess where that 'line' is either. One could make the argument for example, that just Klaus's posting here is 'advertising' for his company... I dont believe its his personal intent, but depending on the perception and sensitivity of who reads, and what their perception is of Mr. Jansen, no doubt means more than the actual content... as is my case.
I for one hope we can keep this on the 'DIY path' and be constructive. I see nothing constructive coming from further 'vendor commentary' about someone who either cant or wont respond.
Regards,
Jon
Just curious, but along those lines: Nanook, is it possible to split a thread into two like that and move that fragment to another forum? This thread started as a regular 'club' thread... then moved onto a 'vendor experiences', and then bounces back and forth between that and a 'DIY idea' thread. If there was a way to seperate the last part of 'solutions & support' from 'vendor experiences' with a sensible break... that might be a good way to keep things in line. That way, those who want to talk about experiences can do so in the vendor experiences area, and those who want to talk solutions can do so w/o incurring protest from those who believe its just to 'defame' the vendor.
Or are we going with the whole idea that the vendor is dead so the vendor experiences part is as well? If so, then just delete my post here...lol. I hope that people can stick to the DIY topic though.
And I know Im in a 'grey area' here with my restrictions... I am suggesting solutions based on what I think will work, but I know its hard to see it as 100% unbiased depending on what the design of those suggestions are. So if I get too close to that line, just let me know and I'll ease up. Im not going to push it, but I cant exactly guess where that 'line' is either. One could make the argument for example, that just Klaus's posting here is 'advertising' for his company... I dont believe its his personal intent, but depending on the perception and sensitivity of who reads, and what their perception is of Mr. Jansen, no doubt means more than the actual content... as is my case.
I for one hope we can keep this on the 'DIY path' and be constructive. I see nothing constructive coming from further 'vendor commentary' about someone who either cant or wont respond.
Regards,
Jon
hahnmeister
In Memoriam
That is ONE consensus, yes... the height doesnt add much benefit, or rather, any benefit that it adds is countered by more serious consequences. I think tall skimmers still have their place... it depends on how they are implimented.
Your proposal seems like it would be more invasive though... it sounds simple to just mount the pump higher, but then you do have a huge dead space in the bottom (that will most likely collect detritus). That 'less invasive' fix means drilling the main cylinder... which might be risky, and it still doesnt really get the air rate up to anything close to something that an 18" body could use (would you hit 3500lph even?). Being that the diameter, as well as height, are the hurdles (unless a different motor), it seems like the 'less invasive' approach would be to have a body made that you can swap out... no drilling, no replumbing, etc. I know this varies from person to person though... Bill's Volcano has its 18" flange up around the reducer, while Tom O's has his down right above the bubble plate. For those with the 'newer' flange lower on the body, a body swap might be the best. For those with a high flange at the reducer, Im thinking enlarging the neck to 10-12" w/ new cup (or just make a very tall reducer... s funnel wall that is 15-20 degrees from vertical) and upping the air intake to 6000-8000lph is in order (maybe one of those ReefFlo pumps from the Euroreef 4000 skimmer?).
lvpd186
Reefing in NE
So if moving the pump would require major surgery so to speak does that leave the option of shortening the main body? I suppose it would be possible to cut a section out of the body and reduce the skimmer's height with out too much trouble. This would help take head pressure off of the pump; maybe making it work better. I still think the needle wheel needs to be changed. Can anyone post a photo of what their needle wheel looks like?
JRaquatics
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