wantanabei's not eating!!

reefjunkie, first of all, a QT is not really the best place to mix fish and see if they get along. It is a place, however, to let a fish recover from shipping trauma and get used to captive environments. It is never a good idea to cram lots of fish into a small quarantine tank. you almost always run into lots of issues: aggression, water quality, etc. Aggression is likely higher in the 40g tank than in your nice 200 gallon reef (by the way, good choice on the angels and i'm sure they will do well in your DT). water quality is harder to control unless your QT was previously cycled with the same amount of load as you are having now. It won't take 7 days for ammonia and/or nitrite to go up; instead it will be hours if the QT is not previously cycled. You must monitor ammonia/nitrite at least once a day, and twice would be better. You will have to do large water change if the levels go up. I hope you have the proper liquid test kits since you mentioned about getting an ammonia badge.

When I first started out in the hobby, I was doing the same thing as what you are doing. I would buy lots of fish to QT together with the intention that I could treat them together. However, this was proven to be very dangerous as each fish could come in with a different disease, and you can only treat one or two diseases at a time since most medications cannot be mixed. Some fish died along the way and I learned the lesson of not rushing and just purchasing one or two fish at a time, and never had problems ever since.

Do you plan on prophylactically treating all of the fish with copper to prevent ich? If not I would suggest that you quarantine them for a minimum of 6 weeks. I would also suggest separating fish that display aggression towards each other with a tank divider, if there is actual aggression at all.
 
i just added zooplankton-L from brightwell aquatics and they reached very well to it. they are swimming around eating. It is kind of hard to see them eat because the mouth is so small and so is the food, but I do believe they will be ok. Im also going to try to feed mysis chopped up with a razor. Thanks I think the problem was the size of regular mysis is quite large atlas PE mysis is. thanks again 29reef and SDguy.

It's good that they are eating the plankton foods. That is their natural food and should be used to entice eating. After they eat those for a few days, you may try slowing adding different types of food together with zooplankton. Overtime most fish pick up the habit of trying something else. Of course, remove any food that is not eaten with 5-10 minutes, otherwise they will pollute the water.
 
It's good that they are eating the plankton foods. That is their natural food and should be used to entice eating. After they eat those for a few days, you may try slowing adding different types of food together with zooplankton. Overtime most fish pick up the habit of trying something else. Of course, remove any food that is not eaten with 5-10 minutes, otherwise they will pollute the water.

exactly what Ive been doing today to entice feeding, the male is still being a bit stubborn but is picking here and there.Ive been siphoning the extra out as well.
 
have you tried using arctipods from reef nutrition? a lot of people are using them to entice fish to eat. Just feed those along with some similar sized frozen foods, and then feed that food along with others and they should eventually take.
 
well the 1st treatment of prizipro is done and both angels are eating. IT has been a strange week but the meeds worked well to combat the pop eye the male had. I started the second treatment today and have a few concerns about the male. He is eating fine, a bit antisocial but nothing strange in swimming breathing ect. However he still has a pretty beat up tail . He also has some type of bumps on his tail that look like a possible parasite being expelled? Aside from the tail he looks good Im going to snap a few pics and try to show you guys what the bumps look like.
 
it's not beat up it's infected. treat with Epson salt. not to be mean, but why did you chose these fish? you're clearly not ready for something of this level, a good alternative would have been a bellus angel pair.
 
I think he got a Bellus pair as well.

+1 for salt, also make sure your keeping up with WC, lots of work ahead.
 
hey guys real quick just like to say thanks to the help! seriously though if someone comes on here and asks for help is it your nature to just shoot them down and be rude? I don't get it i have a legitimate question and all i get is BS. it gets old quick. Obviously its an infection, but what kind and what will treat it. Just trying to get honest help, not a response filled with insult. No i don't have 6 years in this hobby or anything but I do read read read nd they to learn as well. Im just asking for help, not a response filled with hate, thank you. And as far as why i decided on a wanatabei is because its a beautiful deepwater angel, if i didn't think i was capable of caring for it I wouldn't have, and nor did I expect to get an angel in as horrible shape such as this one. And I did ask the shipper not to ship me sick fish and my requests were ignored.
 
I was in no means being rude or hateful, i have tried helping you throughout this thread, and i addressed your problems and questions the best i can. I know you are capable, but i don't think you are ready. It's just way too much money for me to spend if i've never kept a difficult species before. Hope your wantenabei's do well and live long!
 
Thanks I im just getting frustrated because the last thing I want to do is harm the fish and I do appreciate your help very much. What is the ratio of Epson salt I should use? And should I just do a dip or add to water?
 
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