water container ideas

DMBillies

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I have a closet that I'd like to put big water buckets in (one salt, one fresh) to avoid having to lug 5 gallon containers around. I know many people use the brute trash cans for water and I would actually prefer to do the same. The only problem is, my closet door opening is only 17" across. Unless I'm mistaken, I probably couldn't even squeeze the smallest brute through that opening, let alone drag it out (if need be) while it has any water in it. Just wondering if anyone knew of a good sized container that would serve my purpose, be safe for the water, and not be in danger of tipping over. If it were relatively tall and skinny it would save me some closet space, so that would be a bonus. TIA
 
I did this with a closet that is behind my tank:

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I built a stand out of plywood and 2x4s. On the top is a 30 gal water container. Underneath that is a 14 gallon rubbermaid bin (for SW). On the bottom I keep my salt, 5 gallon buckets, etc.

Kind of cluttered, but at least I can shut the door and everything magically looks neat again :)

Jack
 
Airwaterice.com is selling a non-phosphate leaching container on their web site. It looks like one of those that you use for a water softener, salt holder. Anyway you may check it out. I think that they were 70 bucks or something.

Rob
 
Jack - Where'd you get that 30 gallon container on top? That looks like just the thing I need because it has a spout which I can attach a hose to and easily run around the corner to my top-off tank. Looks pretty sturdy too (and probably just about the right size).

Rob - Thanks for the heads up, I'll check it out.

Thanks,
Brian
 
Yeah, that top container is nice. I got it from Reewik when he was selling off his stuff. I'm not sure where you can purchase them new. I have heard that tractor supply has some. I had to squeeze it in slightly when I put it in the closet, but it is a great size for the small space. I installed the spout on the bottom, and put a float valve in the top so my RO/DI keeps it filled all the time.

Since you mention your topoff tank, this is how I have mine setup. I have the RO/DI going to a T with a branch going to my water resevoir (the 30 gallong thing), and a branch going to my topoff resevoir (a bucket).

Topoff:
RO/DI -->T-->ball valve-->float valve-->Topoff bucket

The ball valve is off most of the time, and I turn it on occasionally to fill the bucket back up. The float valve on the bucket is to keep me from accidently overlfowing the bucket when I fill it.

Main Resevoir:
RO/DI -->T-->float valve-->resevoir

This circuit is always on so the main resevoir always stays full.

I mention this because you may not need to run a hose from the main resevoir to your topoff...

Jack
 
Jack - I appreciate the explanation. It seems like it would work nicely. The main problem is that there is no easy way to get a permanent line from the filter to the water container or top-off tank. Therefore, having the ro/di keeping the freshwater container automatically topped off is not going to be an option (I most certainly will still use a float valve in the event that I fall asleep/stop paying attention while making water). Unfortunately, the plumbing for the set-up is going to have to be something that I drag out every time I need to make some water. If I owned the damn house I'd take a sledge hammer to the wall that seperates the closet and the washer/dryer and the problem would be solved, but I somehow doubt that my landlord would be thrilled with that modification.
 
I didn't realize they made the brute containers that small. In all the stores and sites where I've found them, the smallest they had was 32. I wonder if the 20 gallon would fit if I squeezed it to get it through the doorway (it says 19 and 1/2" diameter and I have 17"). That would probably get the job done and keep the $$ down.

Anyone know of a local place where they sell the smaller sizes?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7991215#post7991215 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crumbletop
If you take the door off the hinges do you have more room? I had to to get the container in my closet.
Did you have to build that bench in the closet?
 
No more room with the door off the hinges because the door already opens up all the way and clears the door opening.

Fanof49ASU - I guess that is something to keep in mind... don't want to take the measurements, build it all outside, and then realize I have a problem when I go to put it through the door. That would be a major "here's your sign" moment.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7992728#post7992728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fanof49ASU
Did you have to build that bench in the closet?

It's modular. I built it outside and assembled it in the closet. The top and the bottom are heavy duty shelves, and the things on the sides hold them. I measured it up so that there isn't much play on either side, and everything fits snug.
 
This thread is a little outdated in reference to the specific project in place, but I need to resurrect it because I have a small problem...

My water set-up currently included a wood stand with 2 x 32 gallon roughneck trash cans which I had to jam through my closet door with an opening of about 17". One salt, one fresh with mixing pumps in them that I could switch to output pumps for pumping into my ato and for doing water changes. In short, the set-up is fine and the reservoirs are just about the right size (at 30 gallons, my freshwater can last me a week for topping up all of my tanks with maybe 5 gallons of breathing room and 30 gallons is right around 10% of my total system volume for doing water changes).

When I first put this set-up in I only had one of the big cans for freshwater and a 20 gallon for water changes. It was running that way that way since shortly after this original post was made almost 2 years ago.

When I put in the 270 I used a 32 gallon roughneck can to cook some rock (the can was already on hand from buying a batch of rock). That can popped a seam at the bottom during the cooking process and I figured it just got hit with a piece of rock or something. So when I needed to upgrade the saltwater bucket I went with another 32 gallon roughneck anyway.

I guess you can see where this is going, but today I walk past my fish closet and feel that lovely squish in the carpet. Last night at some point (probably without anyone touching it) that can popped a seem right at the bottom and was shooting a little stream of water out onto our floor (don't tell Moriah... she doesn't know yet and I'll just dry the carpet out... our little secret :)). So, one trash can works fine for 2 years and 2 more recently purchased cans fail in almost the exact same spot (there's a seam that goes all the way around the can at the bottom). Rubbermaid QC must be slipping... not that I think these things were engineered to hold 32 gallons of water.

So, I'm just putting this out there as a cautionary tale to whomever might be staring a project like this down and I'm asking for some more help in considering new containers. I can use pretty much anything I can fit through the door, which is 17 inches... but its also a challenge finding something in the 30-50 gallon range that will fit. I'll have to take a ride to tractor supply since I know they have a wide assortment of water holding vessels.

Edit: The original post said brute cans... but I meant to say roughneck cans. The brute cans are too big/stuff to be able to get through my closet door.
 
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I went to tractor supply tonight. They have a few different things at semi-reasonable prices, but all of them are about 19" wide, and I'm pretty sure that even with some jamming in, I can't get them through the door.

Looks like Jack's suggestion might be the best for size, but even with the 2x discount I'm looking at $225 shipped for two of them... :blown:

I've gotta look around some more before I even consider swallowing that pill.
 
In my military days I remember a collapsible water storage container for water supply that sounds like what you need.
 
I checked out rubbermaid brute trash cans at lowe's while I was there for some plumbing parts. They are significantly heavier duty than the roughneck cans. I also checked out the seam at the bottom which has been the point of failure for the roughnecks. It seems that the brute cans are molded together out of a couple of layers of polymer. If you look on the outside of the can, there is a seam almost at the bottom, but if you look on the inside, the seam is about 6 inches higher. I think this set-up will prevent the cans from splitting down low and make them much better candidates for holding water.

At about $30, they are a bit more expensive than the roughnecks, but they are a lot cheaper than my other options that could fit in the door. I have to jam the can in to get it there, but I'm pretty confident in them holding water long-term.
 
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