wavebox pumps

[Volcano1]

Roger,
I have several generations of waveboxes in use , some from the original with the original pump.
I know the current wavebox uses the 6215.200 pumps, at least i think that is correct.
Do you know what other pumps were used in the other generations. I seem to be having issue with having the 6215.200 last very long.I do have numerous older pumps on hand, and only remember the pre 6215.200 saying wavebox pump, but didn't know the correct number.
Can any other pump be used?
Are the new series 3 pumps going to be phased into the wavebox design?
I'm still trying to keep 3 waveboxes going in the same tank, but pump replacement is problematic.
TIA,
Todd

 

[rvitko]

First pump was 6260.100, that was from 2004-2007, the 6261 replaced it had no external driver pump otherwise looked the same, that was 2007-2009. The 6215.200 replaced that in 2009, there are two distinct generations, 2009-2012 had a removable shaft, 2012 to present has a fixed shaft. Any of these pumps should last around 5 years, rarely more than 8, that is just the upper limit of the capacitor life span they used. Let me know in more detail what problems you are having with the 6215.200, they may be repairable. We have no plans to cancel the older pumps or replace the wave box pump with the Stream 3. The magnetic levitation does not lend itself well to rapid off and on, it takes a while for the pump to start and bring the rotor into levitation before it can ramp up to speed. We do plan to try to use some of the innovations from the Stream 3 to update the older models but that will take time. The Wavebox did just get a refresh this year, the 6214 is the newest version but it uses the same pump, the focus was on a quieter more modern housing.

 

[rvitko]

FWIW the 6215.200 is just a 6155 with a 6105 power supply and no magnet holder.

 

[Volcano1]

I have gone through several of the 6260,6261,and of the fixed shaft 6215.200, must have been their lifespan. I have on that is working , but very low power, it is turned all the way up. Will a bigger power supply increase the flow any?
I do still have some 6105 around and do have some 6300.240 power supplies.

Sorry for the slow response, is was soaking and cleaning everything, hunting down any other spare stuff I had.

 

[rvitko]

If the power supply is 24V, it won't matter which model, the difference between the power supplies is mainly the amperage load they can handle.

I would expect any 6260, 6261 to be dead by now, they are all 8+ years old. The 6215 with fixed shaft is unexpected, they are not that old. The 6105 motor is the same as a 6215 motor.

 

[Volcano1]

I had typo on the 6215, they are the non fixed shaft.
I still have one of the original 6260 still going. As well as a 6100 and 6200
The 6215 is by far the most powerful of the 3 pumps I have going in the waveboxes.
I was hoping I could get more power out of the 6215's.
I did get a new style housing wavebox from local reefer, but it came with the non fixed shaft 6215.

 

[rvitko]

In general the 6215's should last longer if well cared for, the oldest 6100, 6260 have an advantage in that they were completely hand soldered, this meant a lot more DOA and short lived pumps, but since a hand solder joint is usually beefier if everything was done right, they were more robust. The newer products are made by machines and quality is more consistent but a surface mount solder joint is less robust. There really is not a way to get more out of the 6215 pump, if you use a bigger prop, it spins slower, voltage is what sets the speed and 24V is the maximum safe voltage. In the newest wave box, the 6214, the pump actually has a slightly smaller propeller, this was done to reduce noise, most of the actual wave performance comes from the displacement and timing, making the pump stronger gives marginal gains.