what is happening to my anemone?
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minispider
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2 MH 10000k, 150w, switching to 20000k, here it is today....she seems fine and is eating well...let's pray...
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Slakker
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it's certainly bleached pretty badly, but i'm concerned about the fact that it's that close to the LTA.
Anemones will engage in allelopathy, or chemical warfare. It is generally not a good idea to have two different species of anemone in the same aquarium, let alone right next to each other as your S. Haddoni seems to be with your M. Doreensis.
It would probably be in your best interest to pick one of the two and take the other back to your LFS.
Anemones will engage in allelopathy, or chemical warfare. It is generally not a good idea to have two different species of anemone in the same aquarium, let alone right next to each other as your S. Haddoni seems to be with your M. Doreensis.
It would probably be in your best interest to pick one of the two and take the other back to your LFS.
john rochon
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not to put you down but your in over your head at 4 months exp,,,
thats a GIGANTEA CARPET and very very hard to keep!! its on its way out and would take a miracle to save it. I've been at this for 6 years and tryed my hand at the same anenome. 3 weeks and dead. I've been succesfull at many different types of anenomes.
high light and hiflow and perfect water conditions are whats needed and even then its a gamble.
thats a GIGANTEA CARPET and very very hard to keep!! its on its way out and would take a miracle to save it. I've been at this for 6 years and tryed my hand at the same anenome. 3 weeks and dead. I've been succesfull at many different types of anenomes.
high light and hiflow and perfect water conditions are whats needed and even then its a gamble.
GSMguy
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9626109#post9626109 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by minispider
2 MH 10000k, 150w, switching to 20000k, here it is today....she seems fine and is eating well...let's pray...
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dont swtich to 20k that will have less of the light that the anemone eats 20k is better
how far is it from the 150w lights\
oh and get rid of the other anemone and the third clown take them to the LFS
illcssd
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You have a gigantea anemone there, as john said.
Not sure why no one pointed that out yet, it is a bleached green one i believe. The ones i have seen like that have almost all perished.
For those anemones, you need a setup specifically to keep one, High alternating flow, bright lights, and perfect water quality. Without that it Will die. They are the hardest host anemone to take care of equaling that of the magnifica, and with it being bleached, it just adds difficulty to the equation.
2 150w halides are not near enough light for that anemone on that size of a aquarium, 2 400's would be the least recomendeed for your 110. That anemone will stay bleached and eventually die under those lights.
I'm not sure, maybe i missed it, but if do indeed have to species of clowns in there, i would remove one of the pairs.
The anemone needs to be alot farther away from your longtentacle as well, at least a foot imo.
Not to be negative but your situation is not ideal for that anemone, not even close.
Not sure why no one pointed that out yet, it is a bleached green one i believe. The ones i have seen like that have almost all perished.
For those anemones, you need a setup specifically to keep one, High alternating flow, bright lights, and perfect water quality. Without that it Will die. They are the hardest host anemone to take care of equaling that of the magnifica, and with it being bleached, it just adds difficulty to the equation.
2 150w halides are not near enough light for that anemone on that size of a aquarium, 2 400's would be the least recomendeed for your 110. That anemone will stay bleached and eventually die under those lights.
I'm not sure, maybe i missed it, but if do indeed have to species of clowns in there, i would remove one of the pairs.
The anemone needs to be alot farther away from your longtentacle as well, at least a foot imo.
Not to be negative but your situation is not ideal for that anemone, not even close.
Hi folks,
Sometimes I just have to laugh. I've had my tank setup for a little over a month, and I have 2 bta's. They are doing terrific to date.
I've been in this hobby for roughly 30 years, when I started we used dolamyte (sp) gravel, and used wood airstones with undergravel filters to get things "going." It would take 4-6 weeks to get a tank to cycle. We didn't have MH or Lunar lights back then and kept anemones just fine for years. Heck, I built filters using the grocery store bread-holders that were roughly 2ft x 2ft, and put screen-door material on the bottom to hold gravel which would act as the filter bed....to say nothing of the old DLS filters with the ever popular spinning wheel...
back then, I would cycle a tank with anemones and damsels. I see anemones "open wide" like in the pics often - they are generally expelling waste. You know when an anemone is dead, plain and simple.
I think sometimes we overthink this hobby. Back when we didn't have dosing, wet/dry (which I think are terrific for reefs - I used to build them for the LFS) which kept live corals in the tank - hence the difference in opinions...
Anyway, my point to this post is simply this - there's a ton of opinions on this board - many of which are terrific - BUT, please keep in mind that someone's opinion on this board isn't always 100% correct, all the time.
Yes, I have very few posts (my account wouldn't allow me to for a while) and I'm not trying to start a flame, but sometimes you gotta test the water and potentially wait if nothing else is wrong
IE., the guys we have in our tanks (barring corals) are hardy and can do amazingly well without our constant interruption - they've lived thousands of years without our help in the wild... now, if I could only figure out how to move one of the anemones who decided to go behind a rock without tearing him off the rock!
Best,
Stieger
Sometimes I just have to laugh. I've had my tank setup for a little over a month, and I have 2 bta's. They are doing terrific to date.
I've been in this hobby for roughly 30 years, when I started we used dolamyte (sp) gravel, and used wood airstones with undergravel filters to get things "going." It would take 4-6 weeks to get a tank to cycle. We didn't have MH or Lunar lights back then and kept anemones just fine for years. Heck, I built filters using the grocery store bread-holders that were roughly 2ft x 2ft, and put screen-door material on the bottom to hold gravel which would act as the filter bed....to say nothing of the old DLS filters with the ever popular spinning wheel...
back then, I would cycle a tank with anemones and damsels. I see anemones "open wide" like in the pics often - they are generally expelling waste. You know when an anemone is dead, plain and simple.
I think sometimes we overthink this hobby. Back when we didn't have dosing, wet/dry (which I think are terrific for reefs - I used to build them for the LFS) which kept live corals in the tank - hence the difference in opinions...
Anyway, my point to this post is simply this - there's a ton of opinions on this board - many of which are terrific - BUT, please keep in mind that someone's opinion on this board isn't always 100% correct, all the time.
Yes, I have very few posts (my account wouldn't allow me to for a while) and I'm not trying to start a flame, but sometimes you gotta test the water and potentially wait if nothing else is wrong
IE., the guys we have in our tanks (barring corals) are hardy and can do amazingly well without our constant interruption - they've lived thousands of years without our help in the wild... now, if I could only figure out how to move one of the anemones who decided to go behind a rock without tearing him off the rock!Best,
Stieger
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GSMguy
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9628241#post9628241 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stieger
Hi folks,
Sometimes I just have to laugh. I've had my tank setup for a little over a month, and I have 2 bta's. They are doing terrific to date.
I've been in this hobby for roughly 30 years, when I started we used dolamyte (sp) gravel, and used wood airstones with undergravel filters to get things "going." It would take 4-6 weeks to get a tank to cycle. We didn't have MH or Lunar lights back then and kept anemones just fine for years. Heck, I built filters using the grocery store bread-holders that were roughly 2ft x 2ft, and put screen-door material on the bottom to hold gravel which would act as the filter bed....to say nothing of the old DLS filters with the ever popular spinning wheel...
back then, I would cycle a tank with anemones and damsels. I see anemones "open wide" like in the pics often - they are generally expelling waste. You know when an anemone is dead, plain and simple.
I think sometimes we overthink this hobby. Back when we didn't have dosing, wet/dry (which I think are terrific for reefs - I used to build them for the LFS) which kept live corals in the tank - hence the difference in opinions...
Anyway, my point to this post is simply this - there's a ton of opinions on this board - many of which are terrific - BUT, please keep in mind that someone's opinion on this board isn't always 100% correct, all the time.
Yes, I have very few posts (my account wouldn't allow me to for a while) and I'm not trying to start a flame, but sometimes you gotta test the water and potentially wait if nothing else is wrong
Best,
Stieger
first of we dont want to fight just offer advice and as soon as you show me any anemone that has been in captivity for 30 years using a wet dry filter i will be on board.
FWIW Wet drys are not anything but nitrate factorys
And the comment about hardy is rediculous i think anemones are harder to keep than sps corals so what makes them hardy??
Slakker
Premium Member
And don't forget that this is a Gigantea, and not a very healthy one to begin with...it's certainly not a damselfish, and shouldn't be compared to one.
S. Gigantea is a delicate creature, especially after the stress of shipping and collection.
I respect your experience in the art of reefkeeping, Stieger, but keeping a Gigantea in this condition alive, even in a well established tank, is a much more difficult task than keeping a BTA in a new tank.
S. Gigantea is a delicate creature, especially after the stress of shipping and collection.
I respect your experience in the art of reefkeeping, Stieger, but keeping a Gigantea in this condition alive, even in a well established tank, is a much more difficult task than keeping a BTA in a new tank.
D-Rod
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9628241#post9628241 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stieger
Hi folks,
Sometimes I just have to laugh. I've had my tank setup for a little over a month, and I have 2 bta's. They are doing terrific to date.
I've been in this hobby for roughly 30 years, when I started we used dolamyte (sp) gravel, and used wood airstones with undergravel filters to get things "going." It would take 4-6 weeks to get a tank to cycle. We didn't have MH or Lunar lights back then and kept anemones just fine for years. Heck, I built filters using the grocery store bread-holders that were roughly 2ft x 2ft, and put screen-door material on the bottom to hold gravel which would act as the filter bed....to say nothing of the old DLS filters with the ever popular spinning wheel...
back then, I would cycle a tank with anemones and damsels. I see anemones "open wide" like in the pics often - they are generally expelling waste. You know when an anemone is dead, plain and simple.
I think sometimes we overthink this hobby. Back when we didn't have dosing, wet/dry (which I think are terrific for reefs - I used to build them for the LFS) which kept live corals in the tank - hence the difference in opinions...
Anyway, my point to this post is simply this - there's a ton of opinions on this board - many of which are terrific - BUT, please keep in mind that someone's opinion on this board isn't always 100% correct, all the time.
Yes, I have very few posts (my account wouldn't allow me to for a while) and I'm not trying to start a flame, but sometimes you gotta test the water and potentially wait if nothing else is wrong
Best,
Stieger
Yeah! don't come offering an opinion that is different from the tank guardians...careful or they'll :blown:
I take what's said here @ 50% then talk to my neighbor who has an reef tank 150g set up w/no skimmer for the past 10yrs and has an RBTA the size of a lg pizza and does a 40gal WC once a month, I get his expert opinion and meet in the middle somewhere.
I've tried to get him to join here and he's read some things and he just shakes his head and agrees with others.
Him posting his ideas here will definitely rattle some fins.
WELCOME "STIEGER"
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GSMguy
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I've tried to get him to join here and he's read some things and he just shakes his head and agrees with others.
Him posting his ideas here will definitely rattle some fins.
you obviously know what he thinks
i know that nobody has a 30 year old gigantea here on RC lots has changed in 30 years
Him posting his ideas here will definitely rattle some fins.
you obviously know what he thinks
i know that nobody has a 30 year old gigantea here on RC lots has changed in 30 years
minispider
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well...they are not in the same level, one is on the ground and is very healthy, eats alot and craps a lot....the "yellow one" is on an upper level, is just the pic, and is eating well and crapping also very well, as for the clowns they do not fight and keep their own space, and I check the water every single day, for everything, I know I'm overdoing it,that's what the wife says, but it gives me peace of mind, the big anemone doesn't move, so everything looks fine, and yes i'm keeping and eye on it daily, but it seems fine, those 2 clowns bring the food to anemone's mouth, and they seem fine she loves krill and shrimp.... again let's pray for survival, i have a feeling it will make it....
minispider
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you guys are nuts....a case of beer it makes past 3 months....hehehe
illcssd
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Your on, it wont make it in that situation, i am tellin gyou this in hopes someone with the experience and the system for it can possibly take it back to health.
I dont have a great picture of when it was bleached, but i do have experience bringing these anemones back to health, it started like this:
And in 3 months was this:
I dont have a great picture of when it was bleached, but i do have experience bringing these anemones back to health, it started like this:
And in 3 months was this:
