I just want to say that I am so greatful to have met the great people on reef central who have given me frags and sand seeding packs. When I first started the hobby, I was very turned off by a person who sold me his "friend's" live rock, who shall remain nameless, although you know who you are. I was sure that getting into this hobby I would meet so many more people like him who were greedy and anal about money down to the cent. I decided early on that I would not attend meetings because I didn't want to be around these type of people. Then I met a couple of awesome!!!people who helped me so much with not only their knowledge, but they also shared with me the joys of keeping a reef in that they helped me start my own! This hobby is so expensive, and when my reef is at the point of fragging, I hope to help beginners the same way I was helped. Besides, like jjjimmy said, others here help out when a reef crashes.