When it rains it pours

MJAnderson

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Came home tonight to find that a tripped circuit breaker caused my tank to be without power most of the day. Temp got down to 76 from the usual 79.5 and I lost 2 fish and most corals are looking pretty sad. I'm really surprised that 3.5 degree change would kill those two fish...

Hopefully they will bounce back just in time for me to take it all down.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12882033#post12882033 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zzpw3x
It wasn't the temp but the lack of water flow and oxygenation.

I second this...

Sorry to hear about your misfortune.
 
Yesterday I tore apart everything under my 75 gallon; sump and electrical. I have 10 fish and 20 large frags, couple small colonies and 3 BTAs . My system was down from 9am unitl 3am; 18 hours. I had some car trouble when I went out to get electrical supplies and did not get back home until 8pm.

I had the lights plugged into the outlet so they were on and my koralia 2 also, so there was some water flow in the tank but no oxygenation.

The tank is pretty crowded and I had no problems with any fish; I was worried that is why I stayed up late to finish the job and get the skimmer running.

So how long can a tank circulation be off and the livestock still be ok? I am considering adding a UPS for some pumps in case of power outage but a UPS may last an hour or so depending on load.
 
Almost no way that environmental-based temp changes (i.e. the water in a big matching the outside air, with only a few degrees of difference) is going to drop the temps enough to do serious harm. It's the lack of water movement in a reasonably crowded system that sends things downhill, even sometimes in just a few hours. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but lack of any real gas exchange probably doesn't do wonders for the ph levels either.

But even a single pump running is more than enough for most tanks to provide the necessary oxygenation, especially if it ripples the water surface at all.

blueeagle: yeah, most UPSes in a reasonable price range aren't designed to run a long time in an outage under a heavy demand load. Still, if you only plug one or two pumps into it then it will last pretty long (hours maybe for a good one). You can also get battery powered air pumps, the more expensive of which will switch on automatically, or switch from outlet to battery, when they lose power.

As long as temperatures will stay in the normal species range even without a heater, you really don't need too much in the way of circulation to keep a tank alive through an outage.
 
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I've tried using various UPS, but they never lasted more than couple hrs at best. My buddy works on backup power supplies for big computer rooms and suggested the system I'm now using.

I'm running my main circulation pump with a deep cycle 12V battery, continuous battery charger that can handle running with a load (Samlex SEC-1215A), and an Inverter. So my pump is always running that way. When power goes off, the battery takes over.

Before I moved to my current tank, I had that same backup system take over and run the main pump of my 90-gal more than 24 hrs back when we had that big power outage in August a few years ago. My pump at that time was a Poseidon PS4 and was only drawing about 150 watts. I wasn't running anything else on the backup....just the pump. My tank was in basement, so I wasn't concerned about needing heat or cooling.

Now I'm running that same system on my 180-gal with a Reeflo Barracuda. We've lost power for maybe an hour or two...and it ran that pump with no issues. Probably not the best solution for long term power outages, but works great for the short ones.
 
Well that's good to know. I figured it was the temp.

I moved my remaining frags to their own tank, and set up the other one to move the fish. Thank goodness I have all those extra pumps and such laying around!

I'm definately taking this tank down. If I find something locally I'll buy a new (bigger!) tank and reset it back up. Between the crappy algae infested rock I bought and the lack of space for a good fuge with a 72g bowfront stand, I need to just start over.
 
Hi,

I bought a battery operated(C cell?) unit that only comes on and bubbles air into the tank on a power fail. Most local pet shops should have them. I bought mine at Giant Eagle(yes that's right)

Dave
 
lol...where at Giant Eagle? I have a battery operated bubbler but I've only used it for transporting fish around. Never seen one that comes on at power failure before!
 
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