Where to buy Fluke Tabs?

[GreshamH]

Organophosphate is a group of compounds, not a single compound. It's like stopping at acropora when IDing

Here's a brief Background taken from:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic1677.htm

Organophosphate (OP) compounds are a diverse group of chemicals used in both domestic and industrial settings. Examples of OPs include insecticides (malathion, parathion, diazinon, fenthion, dichlorvos, chlorpyrifos), nerve gases (soman, sarin, tabun, VX), ophthalmic agents (echothiophate, isoflurophate), and antihelmintics (trichlorfon). Herbicides (tribufos [DEF], merphos) are tricresyl phosphateââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“containing industrial chemicals

Eeks nerve gas

 

[GreshamH]

trichlorfon (Dipterex, Dylox) Chemical Fact Sheet 6/84
CHEMICAL FACT SHEET FOR:
TRICHLORFON

FACT SHEET NUMBER: 30

DATE ISSUED: June 30, 1984



1. DESCRIPTION OF CHEMICAL

- Generic Name: dimethyl-(2,2,2-trichloro-1-hydroxyethyl) phosphonate
- Common Name: Trichlorfon
- Trade Names: Trichlorphon, Trichlorofon, Chlorphos, Bay 13/59,
Anthon, Bovinox, Briten, Cekufon, Ciclosom, Crinex, Danex, Dipterex,
Dylox, Equinoaid, Neguvon, Proxol, Trinex, Tuzon, and Leivasom.
- EPA Shaughnessy Code: 057901
- Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS) Number: 52-68-6
- Year of Initial Registration: 1960
- Pesticide Type: Insecticide
- Chemical Family: Organophosphate

Dylox is also known as De-Los which is a product of Fishy Farmacy. Here's a blurb from their site:
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/products.html

De-Los
USE: For control of anchor worms, lice, gill flukes and assorted external parasites on freshwater and marine tropical fish. Toxic to sharks and snails. Do not use on prehistoric fishes such as arowanas, silver dollars, lionfish. Not for use in tanks which contain invertebrates.

So Fluke Tabs does contain Dylox. It's comman name is Trichlorfon, one of two active ingredients in Fluke Tabs.

 

[just dave]

dimethyl-(2,2,2-trichloro-1-hydroxyethyl) phosphonate


I believe the above is what mine lists and if I'm not mistaken that is a organophosphate. I didn't mean to imply that it said "organophosphate" on the label. That's why I said "The main ingredient in Aquarium Products Fluke Tabs is a organophosphate."


I know it's some bad stuff and it makes me leery about how I handle it.

In truth to say it contains Dylox might be untrue. Dylox is some companies name for their compound that has dimethyl-(2,2,2-trichloro-1-hydroxyethyl) phosphonate as are all those other names.

Just like Klenex is a tissue brand but not all tissues are Klenex brand. So while Dylox contains or is dimethyl-(2,2,2-trichloro-1-hydroxyethyl) phosphonate not all compounds that are or contain dimethyl-(2,2,2-trichloro-1-hydroxyethyl) phosphonate are Dylox.

Does it really matter? Not really when you get down to it.

Though it might make it harder for someone to find it if just a brand/trade name was given. When I was looking for a organophosphate compound to use in aquaria I had to check to see if that ingredient in Fluke Tabs was what I was looking for.

 

[GreshamH]

Thats Dylox

Luckily, it doesn't hang around in the water column all that long. It's half life is pretty short IIRC.

I wish I had Fluke Tabs, they're eaiser to handle the Dylox powder. I have to measure like .1mg to 100g of water IIRC. Talk about wearing a respirator and extra long gloves

I'm gonna have to give this a go, as soon as I find a local with acro flat worms.

 

[just dave]

I've been trying it out on Acros to see how they handle it. I've tried praziquantel as well. They handle the praziquzntel much better but it doesn't seem to be as effective with the concentrations I've used and for the durations they where subjected to it.

I've been "culturing" some of the acro eating FWs but in order for me to do it I have to give them some acros because I've been unable to keep any alive for any length of time without them having something to munch on. The Fluke Tabs will kill 'em but the corals have not liked the dosages and or time frames I've used.

 

[ReeferMac]

Huh, interesting. Have you tried any liquid versions Dave? I wasn't able to source pellets locally. What kind of concentrations have you been trying? The instructions on the bottle I got (IIRC) said 1 drop per 10 gallons, so I felt 2 drops in 1.5 gallons was pretty concentrated. Although being different products, it's difficult to gauge concentrations.Glad to see someone who has the pests is experimenting, however.
I can offer you a bunch of L. Jackson's purple tipped monster frags for testing if you wanna cover the shipping?

- Mac

 

[Rothie]

Mac-If this is the one you used,it's supposed to be 10 drops per gallon
http://www.aq-products.com/Catalog/Liquid Medications/Antifluke.htm

 

[ReeferMac]

D'oh! That's the stuff, thanks for clarifiying Rothie!

- Mac

 

[Rothie]

Are you going to try it with 10 drops?

 

[ReeferMac]

Ummm.... Prolly not until I get another box in.

- Mac

 

[Vili_Shark]

If you had little bleach with one drop, I wouldnt try it with 10 drops.

 

[FastFish720]

So do we know if it actually kills them?

 

[ReeferMac]

If you had little bleach with one drop, I wouldnt try it with 10 drops.

Well... don't forget, that was after 26 hours, and my QT tank is not... exactly a "Tank" in the conventional sense. It's a little glass box, true, but... I just pop an airline in it on slow bubble. No heater, no lighting, no other water movement.. and they just sit on the bottom of the glass. It works great for acclimating new Acro's (8 hours in interceptor), but I rarely leave sensitive corals in it overnight, as in this case. Under the prescribed regime of a stronger dose under shorter duration, I don't know as it would be problematic enough to cause bleaching. I'd definitely attribute my situation to the temp. drop experienced (though room temp. these days is 78-80 for my house... ).

- Mac

 

[Kent E]

reviving this thread.

Is there more experience with fluke tabs?

I may give this a try on AE flat worms, also I don't have many snails or shrimp in the tank and am toying with the concept of using this in a display but I need alot more info and of course testing in quarentine tanks first.