Which dwarf angel is the most reef safe?

johnnyguitars

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I have a 110 gal mixed reef. I only have two tangs and a chromis. I am looking for a nice angel for my reef. I have a brain, hammer, tree, zoos, mushrooms, ruffled ridge, pagoda cup etc. I love all the dwarf angels, but being a realist, I know i can only have one. Which is the safest bet? Thanks
 
The most reef safe angel is the fireball or the flameback angel. However, I don't know how well one of these fish will do with a brain. I have heard of many angels nipping at brains an no other coral.
 
you cant generalise

you cant generalise

sadly in my experience no good answer to this as the all have different personalities and will eat what they can if hungry.
I have a beautiful tibicens angel its not fussy it will have a go at whatever except the star polyps and sarcophyton.
I had a potters for 3 years in my last project it never touched a polyp!
 
I've got a pygmy angel, doesn't look twice at any of my coral, the brain, or any clam mantles. But it definitely was an experiment. Any angel is supposed to be suspect. Depends on the individual.
 
I'll second the fireball/flameback angel. An LFS in our area keeps them in several of his show quality reef tanks, and says that they give no problems. I've got one in my 40g SPS tank and haven't had any trouble at all. Besides that, they're gorgeous.
Here's mine.
flameback5-29-05.jpg

Mariner
 
The best ones-e.g smallest risk- are angels from the "Argi Complex'. Such as the Cherub, Brazilian Flameback, and African Flameback angels. These are more aggressive dwarf angels ,but they are also smaller. Generally they are trust worthy. Try to add them last if your are also considering adding anything very peaceful anytime soon. Well I hope that helps. Good Luck!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6533908#post6533908 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mariner
I'll second the fireball/flameback angel. An LFS in our area keeps them in several of his show quality reef tanks, and says that they give no problems. I've got one in my 40g SPS tank and haven't had any trouble at all. Besides that, they're gorgeous.
Here's mine.
flameback5-29-05.jpg

Mariner

Which store are you refering to?
 
Aquarium Designs in Birmingham/Hoover. Haven't been there in a few months, but the last time I was I noticed all the flamebacks and asked Tien about them.
Mariner
 
I'm assuming you know about Genicanthus angels.

Speaking of flamebacks, I recently got an african and its one spectacular fish. It seemed cute and meek- until I put a similarly sized Kole in- apparenty the 150 is all his territory...

hopefully there's enough room for both.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6533872#post6533872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Capt_Cully
I've got a pygmy angel, doesn't look twice at any of my coral, the brain, or any clam mantles. But it definitely was an experiment. Any angel is supposed to be suspect. Depends on the individual.

Which fish are you referring to? All of the Centropyge angels are commonly referred to as "pygmy" angels, so that could be any of about 20 species.

The argi complex angels such as the flameback are supposed to be more reef-safe from a coral perspective. However, they often have a reputation for being much less fish-safe. They can be quite aggressive towards other similar sized fishes.

Dave
 
Right, the argi angels do have a reputation for being somewhat aggressive with other fish. That said, I've got my flameback in a 40g with three other fish (chalk bass, chromis & possum wrasse) and I've had no problems at all.

Genicanthus wantanabe (the Wantanabe angel) is a beautiful fish that is entirely reef safe. You could possibly add it AND a dwarf angel.
FWIW,
Mariner
 
I have to agree with adtravels. These fish all have different personalities--as in each individual has a different behavior pattern. IME (and from what I have heard), Potter's, flamebacks, and many of the argi complex tend to be a bit better, but I have had at least a handful of people report problems with picking, etc. as well. You have to weigh the risk and decide if you want to chance it. Your choice may turn out well or miserably. My only advice if you get one is to make sure you feed it well and with a varied diet.
 
Perhaps the reason that the argi's tend to be more reef safe than the other centropyges is that in nature they tend to hang just off the reef in the rubble zone.

Which leads me to make the point that to make them more comfortable in our tanks, we might try and provide an area with a little more sand & rocks and less solid reef for them. They like to hang out in similar environment as pearly jawfish. (Not suggesting they dig ;) )
 
My Flame Angel strait up ate my xenia, little by little. Ive got two types the shorter pink pulsating variety he has never messed with but longer thinner stalked one with gray in it he made short work of it one day after it had been in the tank about two weeks.
 
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Because in his biotop there are no corals :D
 
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