Which Skimmer? Deltec? H&S?

[USC-fan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9614010#post9614010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 1SickReefer
those are true aquabees? just like the deltec?

They are true AB2001. They are the same AB that the H&S skimmers use. Like i said earlier in this thread, the deltec now use a custom AB2001 in their skimmers.

 

[1SickReefer]

Well, after a long thought out decision I went with what I know, I called Doug at Deltec and picked up today at his house a new AP851.

It is all plumbed in and running like a champ. I just have to tune the feed to 350gph, I ballparked it till I have a sec to get my gallon jug out and my stopwatch.

I appreciate all the responses to this thread, you all were a ton of help. I was soo close to going for the A200 1260 but I went with Deltec because they have always treated me right!! and I could get it same day with no shipping charges

I will post some pics when I get a sec. Keep in mind it is in a temp location till my new fish room is complete, at which time it will be in my garage.

The 851 is huge. it is more skimmer that I will ever need. the 2 pump deltec and H&S were just a little too big and expensive for me at this time... If in the future if I want to go larger, than I have $1000 of all ready taken care of from the sale of the 851. I have to sell my AP600 for 500 shipped 2 day.. so this cost me 633 to upgrade

 

[1SickReefer]

Here are some pics, with and w/o flash. It's already skimming..

A nice head of foam already!!!

Right inside the stand

and ofcourse a FTS..

 

[pjf]

H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9605687#post9605687 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 1SickReefer
I really wanted the Deltec, but I agree with the build quality of the H&S, I like the "bands" around the skimmer where each pump connects.

Have the pump attachment "bands" been removed from the newer version of the H&S A150-F2001?

The bands are pictured at: http://www.finsreef.com/product.php?productid=16142&cat=254&page=1.
They are not pictured at: http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=450.

 

[Mimbler1]

Hmmm, that was one of the deciding factors for me getting an H&S A250 instead of a Deltec 702. Maybe the aquabee is a light enough pump not to need it, but I hope that they are not dropping that feature,
Mike

 

[TwistedTiger]

Re: H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

Re: H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9623969#post9623969 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pjf
Have the pump attachment "bands" been removed from the newer version of the H&S A150-F2001?

Since FinsReef is the US distributor I'd go by the pics there. However you should be able to get your answer in the vendors section on the FinsReef forum.

 

[Reef Sponger]

Re: H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

Re: H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9623969#post9623969 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pjf
Have the pump attachment "bands" been removed from the newer version of the H&S A150-F2001?

The bands are pictured at: http://www.finsreef.com/product.php?productid=16142&cat=254&page=1.
They are not pictured at: http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=450.

Maybe that's a April Fool's Day photo? I've been researching the recirculating H&S skimmers and they all have the external support bands. Give their skimmers an extra edge of not having any damage caused by the pumps as the vibrations creates a stress point.

I found a vendor under vendor experiences that is a authorized Fins Reef dealer who is offering RC members a promotional discount of free s/h/i. Checkout the vendor experience forum.

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9602001#post9602001 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 1SickReefer
SMJ,

I see that too in the "other" forum... This is why I am looking for another company... It does not go unnoticed
I will take a look at the ER line, I def want an Eheim or Aquabee pump.

I'm too lazy to read to the end of the thread to see if you've already bought, but stay the hell away from the Aquabees (especially if you buy from Deltec). Even with proper maintenance, their impellars tend to seize up, and in the process, they destroy the impellar well. Deltec will tell you that you improperlly maintained the pump, even if you've been cleaning it in muriatic acid weekly.

The Eheim is a much better pump.

 

[1SickReefer]

I already bought, went with the AP851 from Doug, It's plumbed in and skimming like mad.

I wanted to stay away from AB's too. I wanted eheim but could only afford the 1 pump models, so I went with tried and true as I knew I would in the first place. I also wanted the cup grain b/c I tie that to my house sewer drain and empty the nasty to drain before i remove the cup.

Darn, I wanted that 702/902.. whelp, that will be the next the upgrade in a year or 2

 

[Reef Sponger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9627817#post9627817 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 1SickReefer
I already bought, went with the AP851 from Doug, It's plumbed in and skimming like mad.

I wanted to stay away from AB's too. I wanted eheim but could only afford the 1 pump models, so I went with tried and true as I knew I would in the first place. I also wanted the cup grain b/c I tie that to my house sewer drain and empty the nasty to drain before i remove the cup.

Darn, I wanted that 702/902.. whelp, that will be the next the upgrade in a year or 2

The AP851 is a good choice, just make sure that you get at least 300gph feeding your skimmer for your size setup, any less, you're not getting enough turnover of your setup. I hope you never have problems with your Eheim pump as I've read that it can cost you your first born child to replace if out of warranty. :lol:

 

[1SickReefer]

I'm shooting for 350gph through the skimmer. I just got back from Lowes with some plumbing parts, going to make a few adjustments.

 

[AJtheReefer]

Re: Re: H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

Re: Re: H&S A150-F2001 Pump Attachment Bands

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9627653#post9627653 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reef Sponger
Maybe that's a April Fool's Day photo? I've been researching the recirculating H&S skimmers and they all have the external support bands. Give their skimmers an extra edge of not having any damage caused by the pumps as the vibrations creates a stress point.

I found a vendor under vendor experiences that is a authorized Fins Reef dealer who is offering RC members a promotional discount of free s/h/i. Checkout the vendor experience forum.

that's an old pic. I asked Brian when I bought my skimmer, since he use to use that pic as well. The skimmer should come with bands

 

[AJtheReefer]

btw, I don't get why the beef with the Aquabee pumps. My A150 AB is running like new for two years. I have zero complaints with the noise level, performance or built quality.

Deltec mod could be at fault?

 

[Reef Sponger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9631749#post9631749 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AJtheReefer
btw, I don't get why the beef with the Aquabee pumps. My A150 AB is running like new for two years. I have zero complaints with the noise level, performance or built quality.

Deltec mod could be at fault?

Not sure why either, but there's about 5 threads on the Deltec forum with complaints about the AB pumps and owners not getting resolution from Deltec. I think this is what RichConley is referring to. Besides the cost of replacement pumps, the inconsistent Deltec customer service discourage me from looking into them any further. Definitely wasn't the performance as owners have nothing but great testimonies about it's performance.

 

[Reef Sponger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9629526#post9629526 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 1SickReefer
I'm shooting for 350gph through the skimmer. I just got back from Lowes with some plumbing parts, going to make a few adjustments.

Just be sure to have at least 300gph for your setup, 350gph would be best. BTW, I don't think the AP851 is too small for your setup, I'm sure it will work. Nice to be able to afford a H&S A250 with the double Eheims, but you didn't pick a bad unit.