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Get the H&S since they are practically identical to the Deltec skimmers.
Which Skimmer? Deltec? H&S?
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That is not true. The pumps in the H&S are halfway up the skimmer body. While the deltec/das are more towards the bottom. The problem with the H&S design is that the bottom part of the skimmer body doesn't get any bubblies. So this does cut down on the contact time a lot.
i'm not sure why H&S puts the pumps so high.
I've also noticed that and it has been a topic of discussion on the forms a few times. Supposedly, it does not hinder performance, but I know what you mean....
I still think for the same price (less actually) I'd take an ER RC500 over the A250 or 702 in a heartbeat. But I bought a BM250 since it is 1/2 the price and in sump works well for me, so what do I know :lol:
I had an ER CS12-2 and after I fixed the leaks it was delivered with, it was a good skimmer - very consistent, and produced well. After it developed a new leak after a few years, I gave up on it for my application which was sensitive to leaks. I got an H&S A250 hoping it would do as well, but be better built. Not only is the build quality awesome, the skimmer is even more consistent, and easily skims twice as well or more. Don't get me wrong, the ER was a great skimmer - it did twice as good as my 28 in lifereef which was also a good skimmer. But....the A250 is the best, and parts are reasonable, and will fit. When I ordered a spare pump for my ER, I got the pump and a pile of spare parts that I would have to measure, cut, glue and assemble, because their pumps were custom fit to each skimmer.
Mike
Mike
1SickReefer
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Here the deal, I'm leaning back to the AP851 I love my AP600. It has performed flawless since I bought it. The Ap851 would go on my 120 for now.. I just want to make sure it will skim my 270g TVW when I do buy the tank. I'm definitely upgrading. But I want to do it in steps. First new skimmer, build the fish room, move all the equipment, ie: skimmer, chiller, CaRx sump etc from the 120 to the fish room. Once the 120 is basically just the tank/stand and canopy with the ballast under the stand. than I will build the new stand for the 210 and move it that way.
Let me know if the 851 will do the job. I would go with the 702 but it is just out of my price range.
Let me know if the 851 will do the job. I would go with the 702 but it is just out of my price range.
1SickReefer
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I looked finsreef and AO and I dont see the A250 anywhere, someone have a link to another verdor?
Thanks for all the help guys.
Thanks for all the help guys.
That was then, this is now.
A new ER has Eheim pumps, and better seals. They dont leak. The H&S is a top notch skimmer, no doubt about it,
The A250 is a 10" 2 Eheim pump skimmer. The RC500 is a 12" 3 Eheim pump skimmer, like an A300. the RC500 is ~ $1700 which I believe is a similar price to an A250. An A300 is $2200. just pointing out another option.
A new ER has Eheim pumps, and better seals. They dont leak. The H&S is a top notch skimmer, no doubt about it,
The A250 is a 10" 2 Eheim pump skimmer. The RC500 is a 12" 3 Eheim pump skimmer, like an A300. the RC500 is ~ $1700 which I believe is a similar price to an A250. An A300 is $2200. just pointing out another option.
Finsreef is a sponsor and you can pm him or respond on his website. He hasn't put the A250 on his website yet because he is selling them as fast as he gets them in. He is the sole importer of H&S. I ordered a custom version of the A250 from him, and got it in a reasonable amount of time,
Mike
Mike
Jim_S
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I think the A250 is for the US market. The 2 eheims are too powerful for the 200mm body on our electric current/frequency, so they made a 10" bodied skimmer. That also may be why you can't find them on any euro sites.
When I last spoke to Eric at finsreef, he said they'll add photos when they actually have them in stock for a long enough time. H&S is a small company from what I have heard. They can't keep up with the orders from the USA market.
Eric or Brian will definetly help you out if you call them.
Jim
When I last spoke to Eric at finsreef, he said they'll add photos when they actually have them in stock for a long enough time. H&S is a small company from what I have heard. They can't keep up with the orders from the USA market.
Eric or Brian will definetly help you out if you call them.
Jim
1SickReefer
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I dont need to be in the DOSS club guys 
, I just want recc for skimmers that will work for 270g heavy load.
it going to be the AP851 or the
h&s A200 3xF2001
The A300, RC500, etc are all too big and expensive
, I just want recc for skimmers that will work for 270g heavy load. it going to be the AP851 or the
h&s A200 3xF2001
The A300, RC500, etc are all too big and expensive
1SickReefer
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Ok guys headed to bed, feel free to keep the rec and opinions coming you guys rock.
you guys rock.
1SickReefer
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I'm leaning to the A200 3xF2001
Will it do the job? will it handle my heavy fish load?
Will it do the job? will it handle my heavy fish load?
The only reason I mentioned the RC500 is you were looking at the A250. Price is about the same, but yeah...big skimmer.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9603350#post9603350 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 1SickReefer
I dont need to be in the DOSS club guys
it going to be the AP851 or the
h&s A200 3xF2001
The A300, RC500, etc are all too big and expensive
I like the simplicty of the single pump 851, but I would think the 3x2001 would outperform it. With 3 AB2001, you should have ~ 1500 LPH which is less than the 1800 LPH of the A200 2x1260 and not so much of a pump overkill.
Reef Sponger
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If you decide on H&S, I agree with all the others, the A250 with the double Eheim pumps will be your best bet. From some of the threads on H&S forum, it sounds like the AB pumps are a little noisier than Eheims.
