Who wants to help me?! Tank decisions...

kimsie

kimsie

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Hi!!!

Ok - so I'm looking for some advice and help...

Currently I'm running 3 tanks... The reason I have 3 is I was wanting to get into clownfish breeding once I get moved into our new house - but realistically that might be a while and who knows how soon after I move I would really be able to set up a breeding system and have time to start playing around... Well - my niece is looking to get her first tank and so I'm going to give her one of mine - so I need to do some major tank rearranging to accomplish this...

Here's what I currently have...

14g Biocube -
Gold Stripped Marron Clownfish pair
their H. Crispa Nem
diamond spot goby

12g NanoCube -
Orange Ocellaris pair
their H. Malu nem
Midas Blenny

30g Breeder -
Black Ocellaris pair
their H. Crispa Nem
Flame Angel
Cherub Pygmy Angel
Blue Devil Damsel
Twin Spot Goby
Black Capped Basslet
Various corals...


Ok - so my plans are to give her the 12g NanoCube...

Ideally in a perfect world - here is what I would do. Sell or Trade in my Flame Angel, Blue Devil Damsel, Midas Blenny and Cherub Pygmy Angel... Then move my Orange Ocellaris pair and their H. Malu in to my 30 breeder... So - my 30 breeder would then consist of...
Orange Ocellaris pair
H. Malu
Black Ocellaris pair
H. Crispa
Twin spot goby
Black Capped Basslet



Now - my problem with this is I know that although some people have success keeping multiple ocellaris pairs together (and that ocellaris are the most likely to live together of all clowns) that it's still a risk that they might not get along. What do you think - would you try it? My 30g breeder is 36 inches long x 12 inches deep x 18 inches tall. In it I have two very seperate rock stacks with the middle open. Any chance that the 2 pairs would set up and take sides and keep to them selves?


I'm thinking I would have to be prepared to get the orange pair out of there and get rid of them...


Anyway - I'm coming here for thoughts and suggestions! I would love some brilliant ideas!

Also - when it comes to trading in fish or selling them - which is better? How do all of you handle that?

Thanks guys... I appreciate all the help and advice you can give!
 
i am looking at your post and discussing it with a fellow reefer on the phone at the same time. we have come to the conclusion, that we are confused as to what you want to do. are you moving everything to the thirty, or are you keeping the 14g.
 
I just didn't repost the 14g's contents - because that will stay the same... GSM Pair and their H. Crispa... & diamond goby...
 
Your taking a risk that the 2 paired Clowns will get a long.

I had a Clarky, and a Ocellaris in a 240, and they didn't get a long at all.

But then I had a friend that had a Ocellaris, and a Yellow striped Maroon that got a long fine.
 
There is definitely a chance they would not get along, but like everything else in this hobby, they are all different! I would personally try moving over the other pair and just giving it a test run, knowing you may need to pull them. Then give it some time while you keep the 12g running in case it doesn't work out. As far as selling I would list them on here to the local guys, that way you know they get a good home instead of going back to the LFS. I know Fade was talking about wanting a midas blenny and I know his 450 would make a good home for it. Let us know what you end up doing.
 
Well if both sets are paired up, it is less likely they will be okay together in such a confined tank. Pairs get very territorial about there roosting spots, bulling nearly anything that comes near it.

Also from what I have heard about breeding clowns (I have a pair that lay eggs every two weeks consistently) you can not have anything else in the tank the goby will eat the newly hatched as will the anemones. just what i've heard
 
also if you get rid of the black pair I have quite a good home for them in one of my tanks so i'd figure id put it out there for first dibs
 
Well - the Midas Blenny definitley has to go... I love him - and he's super cute... just bought him 2 weeks ago, but he's a jumper - at least in my tank (keeps going into the back of the cube). But I think it's too small for him - so maybe in a larger tank that fear would be gone.

As far as listing the fish on here that I need to find new homes - how does that work? What kind of price would I set for them?

Here are the 4 that I know need new homes...

Flame Angel
Cherub Pygmy Angel
Midas Blenny
Blue Devil Damsel (he was only $5 - so if anyone would offer him a home - he'd be free - I added him last to that tank and he's not agressive, YET)

I think I'll try the ocellaris together... I've asked around other places and most have said it's worth a try. I guess if it doesn't work - I'll have to find new homes for the Orange ocellaris pair too...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12128580#post12128580 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by breutus
Well if both sets are paired up, it is less likely they will be okay together in such a confined tank. Pairs get very territorial about there roosting spots, bulling nearly anything that comes near it.

Also from what I have heard about breeding clowns (I have a pair that lay eggs every two weeks consistently) you can not have anything else in the tank the goby will eat the newly hatched as will the anemones. just what i've heard
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Yeah - that's what I'm afraid of - they are paired up - not mated or spawning yet - but are paired with definite female/male...

I wouldn't be looking for them to spawn in this tank - if I do get a breeding system set up in the next year or so - I'd have special breeding system built - I've done a ton of research about that. This would just be for the next year or so.. Or if they get along and I never breed - maybe for longer (but I'm upgrading to a larger main tank once we move - so that will happen before the breeding system).

As for the black pair - I'm keeping them - but thank you! I don't wan to get rid of them :) They're my favorite! Poor little orange ones would have to go - but they're a really nice looking pair - I really don't want to get rid of them either!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12128465#post12128465 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Im Lon 2
Your taking a risk that the 2 paired Clowns will get a long.

I had a Clarky, and a Ocellaris in a 240, and they didn't get a long at all.

But then I had a friend that had a Ocellaris, and a Yellow striped Maroon that got a long fine.
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I'm the friend who had the Ocellaris and Yellow striped Marron together. They got along just fine with no issues. But keep in mind they were in a 90g and were both bought at the same time & were both very tiny when brought home.

I think your Idea is no good. Mated pairs in such a small tank will fight. You asked for advice, I'd take heed on what other's are warning you about. It's possible that they might get along......Then again it's possible that I might one day win the lottery. :)
As for selling fish here in the forums, Just ask for what you think is a fair price, if no one takes them, then try dropping the price.
 
Thanks for your advice!

I have a feeling I'm soon going to be offering up a pair of orange ocellaris soon too... but I'm going to give it a try I guess. I'm off work Friday and have all weekend - so I think I'll do it soon so that I can keep a close eye in them. I do have a makeshift divider already made that I can throw in place if things don't go well until I can find the orange's a good home.

I would love it if it would work, but realistically I know that it probably won't.

What do you think - will I know instantly if they won't get along? How long should I give them?

Should I introduce the new pair in a breeder basket first?
 
It won't be instantly, they'll need time to adjust, once setted down "if" they don't get along you'll know. I'd say within a few hours.

The breeder basket might but I wouldn't hold my breath. Sounds to me like you are on the right track though with the divider ready at hand. I hope it does work for ya though. :)
 
Ok... we'll they're in! They have been for about an hour so far... No major visible aggression YET - but it could be coming... Right now they seem to be all checking each other out... Kind of staying in the same area of the tank as each other. They sure look pretty together - but I'm not holding my breath that it's going to work. I'll be sure to keep you all posted!!

Kim
 
And - they're out!

I couldn't take it - there were some little fights and I started totally freaking out... I would have never been able to rest and know they'd be ok.

Too bad - they looked great together.

Good news comes of this though! My niece said since I'm giving her my tank - she'd watch my orange pair until I'm ready to start breeding! And now I can keep my Midas Blenny - I put him in the 30 and he seems MUCH happier there than my 14g... Many more places to hide and swim...
 
I was gonna say I only have a empty six gallon but if you need someone two watch them it is a fully established tank and they would do good in it untill you want them back

Lucas
 
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