Wild Onyx Clownfish. Take 3

DasCamel said:
I've treated Brook a couple times last year, with multiple types of fish. Following the instructions of the Kordons products never worked well. Not sure what the best way is to procure 37% formalin that is high grade.

Both times what sealed the deal was Quick Cure from Wal Mart. I hate going to Wal Mart, but that product worked the best. I lost a few fish relying on the Kordon's products. Just be sure to treat as bath or dip with tank transfer. I followed the Chucks Addiction instructions to the letter.

What PPM and length of time have you been treating?
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I use Chucks Addiction as reference too. My attempts to acquire Quick Cure from multiple fish stores on the same day I purchased the clowns proved to be futile. A local fish store owner told me about Quick Ich X by Hikari. I studied its ingridients at the shop and concluded it's the best medication one could obtain (22% formaldehyde) on the spot without dealing with shipping. Granted the medication has a lower concentration of formalin than one would desire it is nevertheless helping my clowns to deal with brook. Giving them a medicated bath in a small separate tank upon bringing the clowns home and subsequently dosing the QT with it may have actually saved them from perishing outright. I might order the standard 37% formaldehyde tomorrow but for now the medication that's already in the tank seems to be helping.
I might go to Walmart tomorrow to see if they have quick cure before pulling the trigger on online purchase. Thanks for the tip.
 
Sorry to hear this, and hoping for a fast recovery. Sounds like you have a very solid plan for treatment and I'm glad they are responding to it.
 
The clown is a little lethargic while the other one is swimming around. Here's a pic of the sick clown from this morning. He doesn't look too bad overall but his lethargy is concerning.
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Sorry to hear man. I also have experience keeping wild onyx. It's very tough no doubt.
I started with 5 qtd in Nitrofurzone Green, lost my favorite two right off the bat, also shipped one to a friend in good health and it got sick on him and died. I have two left, one is doing good and the other is fighting flukes.

The white patch of slime coat is easily addressed with CP (1/8tsp per 10g dose). It fixed that over night for me after removing them from the nitro green QT. I then noticed some skin bumps and scales started raising. This is the part that was hard to tackle and eventually led to their death. I even tried Erythromycin on them and it didn't help.

Yesterday I picked up a pair of wild onyx clowns from a local reefer that he had for over 6 months. Although they looked really good they are now in a QT with some other Balis with a mild dose of CP. Fingers crossed...

I now have Revive from Fish Vet to also use...

Best of luck bud. Keep us updated.
 
ExpertMarine said:
Sorry to hear man. I also have experience keeping wild onyx. It's very tough no doubt.
I started with 5 qtd in Nitrofurzone Green, lost my favorite two right off the bat, also shipped one to a friend in good health and it got sick on him and died. I have two left, one is doing good and the other is fighting flukes.

The white patch of slime coat is easily addressed with CP (1/8tsp per 10g dose). It fixed that over night for me after removing them from the nitro green QT. I then noticed some skin bumps and scales started raising. This is the part that was hard to tackle and eventually led to their death. I even tried Erythromycin on them and it didn't help.

Yesterday I picked up a pair of wild onyx clowns from a local reefer that he had for over 6 months. Although they looked really good they are now in a QT with some other Balis with a mild dose of CP. Fingers crossed...

I now have Revive from Fish Vet to also use...

Best of luck bud. Keep us updated.
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Thanks :)
 
The clowns went through a tank transfer. They will receive a regular formalin bath in the evening and will go back in the tank. Coppersafe will be added to QT just in case I am dealing with something other than brook (or in addition to brook) such as Velvet.
 
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If it's 22% you can add more to get the dosage to equal what it would be for the 37%. Never tried the Hikari, curious to see its effectiveness. I grew up in Santa Monica, not sure if Wal Mart is even exists on the Westside, best place for Quick Cure
 
DasCamel said:
If it's 22% you can add more to get the dosage to equal what it would be for the 37%. Never tried the Hikari, curious to see its effectiveness. I grew up in Santa Monica, not sure if Wal Mart is even exists on the Westside, best place for Quick Cure
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I don't know of a Walmart store on the west side. I've only been to Walmart probably 3-4 times in my life because there's a Target on almost every corner. LOL.
A friend of mine gave me some regular 37% formalin. I decided not to experiment with Hikari on these clowns because they are harder to find than regular true percs and sometimes getting them requires 40-50 mile round trips which I would rather not do. Haha. But if I were not able to find regular formalin I would stick with Hikari. I looked up Kordon. It only has 11.5 % formalin.
 
The clowns are about to be placed in a long term formalin bath for 5 days with 30% daily water changes and formalin replenishments. Maracyn 2 will also be used at the same time to treat secondary bacterial infections.
 
SG has been lowered to 1.016 and Formalin has been added to QT. I am a little unsure about dosing Maracyn 2 for infection because of mixed views on mixing formalin with other meds.
 
CoralsAddiction said:
I don't know of a Walmart store on the west side. I've only been to Walmart probably 3-4 times in my life because there's a Target on almost every corner. LOL.
A friend of mine gave me some regular 37% formalin. I decided not to experiment with Hikari on these clowns because they are harder to find than regular true percs and sometimes getting them requires 40-50 mile round trips which I would rather not do. Haha. But if I were not able to find regular formalin I would stick with Hikari. I looked up Kordon. It only has 11.5 % formalin.
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Yeah, I adjusted the Kordon per their instructions to the levels in PPM that Chucks suggests and it was still futile. And yeah we do most of our shopping at Target also, I hate the mart except for an occasional weird reason, like getting a fishing license quickly.
 
I would suggest keeping the SG closer to 1.025 as it's more in line with their natural environment...
You should look into Revive by FishVet as it has two other ingredients that are compatible with Formalin and one of those might do what you want...
 
Sad update. The clowns died. They looked terribly stressed and uncomfortable last night so I did a 50% water change to remove a large chunk of the medication. Woke up this morning and both were dead. If I could go back in time I probably would have just kept them in Hikari medication, not do a fresh water dip and not do a tank transfer. I think that all those things really stressed them out.
 
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Thanks. I wish it had worked out. It was truly a beautiful pair of clowns. I wish I could figure out why almost every single clown that comes from Solomon ends up with brooklynella…no matter what vendor I go through. I have seen true percs and Oceallris from other regions but they seem to live.
 
I've started prophylactic 30 min dip of all incoming clowns before they hit the main QT if they are strong enough. Seems like Brook is far too common in the industry now.

Sorry for the loss, they were gorgeous fish.
 
CoralsAddiction said:
Thanks. I wish it had worked out. It was truly a beautiful pair of clowns. I wish I could figure out why almost every single clown that comes from Solomon ends up with brooklynella"¦no matter what vendor I go through. I have seen true percs and Oceallris from other regions but they seem to live.
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Sorry for your loss.
Fish from the Solomons spend 40h or more in the bag - that weakens them sufficiently. It is also likely that latent brooklynella infections are common among fish from that region or that their holding facilities are insufficient promote parasites to spread.

Though there may be other issues with them besides brook. Before I saved several of them with antibiotics.

Did they still had white patches or where they just breathing heavily?
 
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