will these guys be ok in my setup???

mindytoy

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i have a surfline S shaped 90 gallong tank. has live sand and live rock about 70lbs which is taking up alot of the tank. anyways im thinking of putting 2 clowns, a hipo blue tang, a small niger trigger, a picasso trigger, maybe a dwarf lionfish one of those green and red gobies, some snails, hermits, soft coral, and a starfish maybe an urchin too...

will these be compatible?? any advise is greatly apreciated :)
 
Re: will these guys be ok in my setup???

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12974064#post12974064 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mindytoy
i have a surfline S shaped 90 gallong tank. has live sand and live rock about 70lbs which is taking up alot of the tank. anyways im thinking of putting 2 clowns, a hipo blue tang, a small niger trigger, a picasso trigger, maybe a dwarf lionfish one of those green and red gobies, some snails, hermits, soft coral, and a starfish maybe an urchin too...

will these be compatible?? any advise is greatly apreciated :)

Besides the compatability issues, your tank is too small for the blue tang, the niger or the picasso.
 
Re: Re: will these guys be ok in my setup???

Re: Re: will these guys be ok in my setup???

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12974203#post12974203 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by abulgin
Besides the compatability issues, your tank is too small for the blue tang, the niger or the picasso.

i agree, especially the niger, your tank wont keep one of these happy for long, defo too small
 
ok so based on the chart the lionfish is a hit or miss situation and the triggers cant have inverts?

i mean wouldnt the hermits hide if they do get picked on by the triggers? what about starfish will triggers eat them?

im not thinking of adding shrimp i just love the triggers and the lionfish but id get a dwarf so it stays small...
 
I think it's a non-issue because I don't think your 90g is big enough for a niger or a picasso. I don't even think you should be considering them.
 
damn this sucks then. such wesome fish yet i cant have them. a friend has had a niger trigger for over 3 years in a 55 gallon and hes maybe 8 inches or so and hes fine in that one. i read the triger gets up to like 16 inches which is extremely huge for a 90 gallon, but the picaso says it only gets to 10 inches... the dwarf lion gets up to 5 inches, clowns up to 4, the blue hippo i read up to 12 which is huge, and goby like 3 inches...

i mean i know they wont be that size until maybe a couple of years, but i also realize this info is for ocean fish where as in a smaller aquarium they wouldnt get that big... plus im sure in like 3 yrs or so if they do outgrow the tank which im sure they will i might get a 120 or so i just couldnt right now cuz im on the second floor and live with my prents, as it is the 90 gallon to them is a monster tank lol
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12974348#post12974348 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mindytoy
a friend has had a niger trigger for over 3 years in a 55 gallon and hes maybe 8 inches or so and hes fine in that one.

No it's not fine.

by mindytoy
but i also realize this info is for ocean fish where as in a smaller aquarium they wouldnt get that big... [/B]

Because our glass cages stunt their growth when it's not big enough for the animal. Pyschologically speaking, this would be cruel.

You can't have a niger or a picasso or a blue tang in a 90g. Period.
 
I suspect you are asking a question and waiting for the answer you want to hear. The replies you already have say it all. My advice is to revise your wish list and research compatibility and volume issues before you buy anything.
 
Can it be kept alive in a tank that is too small, sure. But it's like trying to keeping a Great Dane or a greyhound in 3ft cage for their whole lives. It's just wrong. There are plenty of great fish you can keep in a 90. Look at clowns, coral beauties, flame hawks etc..
 
ok then i shal revise my list. for sure the niger is out of the question. i dont see why a picasso wont be good though since it gets like 8 inches in a tank? also not to sound like a retard but my LFS said if they outgrow the tank he can hapily take them back for store credit since he has about 3,000 gallons of tanks...

what other fish woud be ok with clowns and the gobby then? i liked that red angel but its $40 bucks here which isnt too expensive but the dwarf lionfish is $22 the hipo is $30 the clowns are $12 for small and $18 for medium, the niger is small and $35 the picaso same as niger, the goby is $20 i belive. starfish is $14 nails and hermits $1.99

i liked the foxface and the monkey face fish too. are those a better choice?


that chart didnt realy help though
 
Mindytoy, it seems like perhaps you are getting way ahead of yourself...have you read all of the information in the "sticky" at the top of this forum? ("New--first time on RC") There is a lot of good and necessary information on there. Is your tank really ready for fish? Do you have test kits and have you been testing the water to make sure that the tank has cycled. It does not look like you are doing any research on the fish you are thinking about, other than saying is it okay if I get this. It is probably not the best information on the web, but if you go to websites like Liveaquaria.com and Marinedepot.com and search for the fish you are looking for, you will get a little basic information about each fish. Just beware that sometimes their minimum tank sizes are really a little too small. After all, you really want the fish to thrive in the optimal size tank, not the bare minimum. You should have a quarantine tank set up and know what is involved in maintaining it BEFORE you buy any fish. Then when you buy them they need to be purchased and quarantined one or two at a time before they are added to the tank. There is a massive amount of information available here on Reef Central. Though the search button does not always work, if you search during the day when there are fewer users, you can almost always get through. It sounds like you have a lot of youthful enthusiasm and that is good, but you will save yourself heartache and money if you read, read, read first.
 
thanx for that info. i have read alot but still need alot to learn, the tank is not cycled yet but im trying to know ahead of time what fish i want. after looking at them thats the list of fish i want but now i cant have some of them. i have a 10 gallon w filter i can use as qt. something i havent learned is how do you add a fish? is it the less agressive ones first or inverts first? also i know you have to dip the bag for atleast an hour or so and slowly add some of the tanks water right? or do i really have to put them in the 10 gallon for 6 weeks? the QT should contain the exact water in the 90 right? i imagine it would be stupid to have a dif temp, and salinity and then add to the 90? or is the QT needed just to make sure the fish doesnt have ich?


also do you only add a fish at a time or what?

thanx guys i know im wasting some of your time, but this helps alot plus everyone has been in my situation at a starting point. and the search button works 1 out of 10 times :(
 
While you're waiting for your tank to cycle, buy Conscientious Marine Aquarist by Robert Fenner (new edition) and Reef Invertebrates by Anthony Calfo. They will give you a great starting point.
 
Yes, those books are excellent. Read them cover to cover. Twice. A quick lesson about LFS in general. Many (most?) will say anything to get something out of their tank into yours. The LFS may or may not be around to take something back into their tanks and if they do they are likely to give you 50% credit which is roughly their cost. If the item is better than when they sold it to you. SLOW DOWN. NOTHING good ever happens quickly in this hobby. The folks above are giving you excellent opinions and you seem to be hoping that someone will chime in and support the position you want. Bad idea in this hobby. Unless of course you want to make the same mistakes we all made on your own.
 
so can you tell me how adding fish occurs? and the guy in the LFs is a friend hes not like the other guys who just wan2 make a dollar doesnt matter if it kills an animal.

no this guy tells you straight up.. and for him to tell me he will give store credit of what i paid for if i decide to return any livestock is reasuring. he also hooked me up i spent $208 for 75lbs of LR figi
 
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