With today's technology, why is it so difficult....

[mille239]

Why would it be so difficult for a company to put out a salt that mixes up to the proper reef water parpameters right out of the bucket!?!?!?!?!

I'm always having to adjust the levels after mixing new salt... adding magnesium, calcium, etc....

So if any salt companies out there listening, I think you'd make a fortune and corner the market with a salt that when mixed up at 1.026:

Ca: 425
dKH: 9.0
Mg: 1400


I know everyone might have slightly different ideal parameters, so you can't please everyone I guess...

Ok, I'm off my rant. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming :rollface:

 

[landlord]

I approve of this rant!

 

[2frosty4u]

As with any business I figure it boils down to the almighty dollar. They want as big a return as possible with as little cash outlay they can.

 

[mille239]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14797973#post14797973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 2frosty4u
As with any business I figure it boils down to the almighty dollar. They want as big a return as possible with as little cash outlay they can.

I certainly understand that, and I know consistency may be an issue when dealing with large volume manufacturing.

I also know certain brands mix with a higher Ca level such as reef crystals, or oceanic, but I think people (myself included) would be willing to pay a little more in exchange for the additional time spent adjusting these levels post-mixing.

Does anyone have a link to some recent salt comparisons, showing the levels after mixing?

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

Re: With today's technology, why is it so difficult....

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14797873#post14797873 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mille239
Why would it be so difficult for a company to put out a salt that mixes up to the proper reef water parpameters right out of the bucket!?!?!?!?!

I'm always having to adjust the levels after mixing new salt... adding magnesium, calcium, etc....

So if any salt companies out there listening, I think you'd make a fortune and corner the market with a salt that when mixed up at 1.026:

Ca: 425
dKH: 9.0
Mg: 1400


I know everyone might have slightly different ideal parameters, so you can't please everyone I guess...

Ok, I'm off my rant. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming :rollface:

settling of contents might result in product not be uniform throughout a whole bucket-
for best results thoroughly mix entire contents of a bucket of salt before using it. (Different salts are blended together when making synthetic seasalts).

suggestion: purchase boxes of saltmix and use one entire bag at a time.

 

[Rjukan]

^ interesting, I never thought of it that way but it makes sense. For some reason I thought everything was in the actual salt granual, not all mixed in the bucket. Thanks!

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14798013#post14798013 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rjukan
^ interesting, I never thought of it that way but it makes sense. For some reason I thought everything was in the actual salt granual, not all mixed in the bucket. Thanks!

I thought the same thing for many years.

 

[mille239]

Re: Re: With today's technology, why is it so difficult....

Re: Re: With today's technology, why is it so difficult....

Wow, it seems too obvious that I never thought of this either. I will certainly begin doing just that.

Occam's Razor!!! (The simplest answer is usually the correct one)

Thanks for chiming in Gary.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14797998#post14797998 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
settling of contents might result in product not be uniform throughout a whole bucket-
for best results thoroughly mix entire contents of a bucket of salt before using it. (Different salts are blended together when making synthetic seasalts).

suggestion: purchase boxes of saltmix and use one entire bag at a time.

 

[snorvich]

Although expensive, you might check out Reefer's Best Salt. It is what I use and the parameters are very close to NSW.

 

[johnnyblaze313]

These guys sell a all in one salt mix


http://www.gettankedaquariums.com/i...cial.Sea.Salt.2.Part.Gallon.Mix.Main.Page.htm

 

[aquaman67]

Also,

Not everyone wants the same parameters. They are selling salt to the broader market.

FO guys don't get twisted about Ca levels. FOWLR tanks only need minimal Ca.

The initial mix up of salt isn't the cure for what is consumed by your tank. You're going to have to supplement one way or another. Unless you're really, really faithful at doing water changes.

I use IO. I've had success with it and will stick with it.

 

[LobsterOfJustice]

Although most people on RC use RODI, the total percentage of people using RODI who have saltwater aquariums is quite low. I bet if you mixed up a batch of saltwater using tap water, numbers would come out better.

Problem is, once you make a salt meant to be mixed with RODI, you are limiting yourself to a small subset of consumers, and price goes up because of that (see Reefers Best...).

 

[mille239]

Never been to this site... Looks to cater to the serious reefer!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14798601#post14798601 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by johnnyblaze313
These guys sell a all in one salt mix


http://www.gettankedaquariums.com/i...cial.Sea.Salt.2.Part.Gallon.Mix.Main.Page.htm

 

[THE ROOK]

Tip I got was to roll the new salt bucket around on it's side before opening as they can settle due to shipping .

 

[johnnyblaze313]

Ya I never ordered from them but I see alot of people like it on my local forum.

 

[MileHighFish]

That is a good site, Thanks

 

[mille239]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14798893#post14798893 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by johnnyblaze313
Ya I never ordered from them but I see alot of people like it on my local forum.

Are you on Michiganreefers? I've got a screen name there (same I think) but I rarely (maybe once yearly) venture over there...

I'm too comfortable in my Reef Central Bubble to accept change. ha ha ha:rollface:

 

[Rich D]

Reef Crystals just recently upped their ca to 455! YAY

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

Ca 445ppm isn't necessary IME.

FWIW I use IO.

 

[jubjub]

have any of you guys tried Red Sea Coral Salt pro?

i've been using that for a while when i mix 15gal at a time im pretty darn close to those params although i cant test mg..

i usually get 1.026
ca 450
alk bout 3.5meq
although my potassium is kind of low imo but most people dont dose that.