WOW... everyone please read this...

The saddest part is that these kinds of bills would be entirely unnecessary if people were just responsible with the animals they keep...

I am not saying I am for bills like that, but no, it is not smart to release your pets into the local environment... duh.
 
Agreed Brian. One of the guys in the WTMRAC said that they've caught 3 oscars in community parks! Not cool. People just don't get it usually.

Brandon
 
I heard about those lion fish, Rick. Supposedly they originally came from an Aquarium down there after a hurricane.

Its really sad. They are beautiful lions, but they don't belong in the Atlantic!

Brandon
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14824076#post14824076 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NeveSSL
I heard about those lion fish, Rick. Supposedly they originally came from an Aquarium down there after a hurricane.

Its really sad. They are beautiful lions, but they don't belong in the Atlantic!

Brandon

some say the petshop after the hurricane.. but i have heard people say they come out of ballast water from ships
 
so, if that bill passes that means everyone will have to turn over their corals and fish from their reef tanks? The tropical fish in the FW tanks, and reptiles too??? Even if you already have the animal, someone can just come and take it?

Is someone gonna go door to door to check on what animals you have in your house? I don't understand. Guess I need to read it again...

Steve
 
I can see it now

"sir put down the bag and put your hands behind your back. You are being arrested for the illegal posession of clown fish"


:D
 
I've not read this bill at all yet, but I can't help but wonder how much of the reaction is over reaction. I collect minerals, and recently a bill was passed that was "The end of fossil and mineral collection" according to many in the hobby and people afraid that the government would raid their homes demanding that the prove when and where they collected specimens, but once you read into the meat of the bill, essentially is was defining protected lands and some government properties as non-collecting areas, and most all of them where all ready off limits.
 
If I had to, I honestly could do without the fish tanks...but not my snakes. If the bill did pass, I have 6 corn snakes and a western hognose....all native to the US. My dumerils boa and rose hair tarantula are not though...

Steve
 
The bill itself will not be passed. But a specific species bill will!!!! For example, I used to own a Quaker Parrot, it is illegal to own or breed in the state of Tennessee and many states because it can cause some damage to crops and it is able to adapt to different environment. It can even live up in NY. I have observed this parrot living out in colonies down in FL and it's quite neat. I got it while I was living in Iowa where it is not illegal yet. One of the smartest parrots I've ever owned.
 
Michael, and to a large extent, bills like that make alot of sense.... I guess we are all fortunate enough to be in a hobby in an area that the animals have no chance to adapt to the environment?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14841825#post14841825 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sandalscout
Michael, and to a large extent, bills like that make alot of sense.... I guess we are all fortunate enough to be in a hobby in an area that the animals have no chance to adapt to the environment?

It makes sense I agree, but it doesn't make sense to what the power company do to their babies when they remove their nests off the poles. They kill them or just left them laying on the ground to fend for themselves. There is a Quaker Association that goes around to pick them up though. Another one is Parrots of Telegraph Hill, there's even a documentary on it if anyone wants to watch. It's about Conures that was let out in California and they were able to adapt and raise youngsters. They all have the will to survive, it's really not their fault that they got out in the first place, it has to do with people period! I picked up two parakeets outside of Sam's Club parking lot sitting on the pavement. They got out from someone's cage or being released. One or the other, they will NOT survive since they were raised in captivity. Plus they were only about 7 months old at that time. The cold weather will kill them too. I'm glad I found them and give them my home to stay. I don't agree with those bills, but I do think that people needs to be educated on these type of situation, even make them take classes before ever owning a pet.
 
Yep, I agree with you 100% on that. It's just a shame that to me many of the bills that are passed in this country on the surface seem like another way of the government attempting to control people, but if they weren't passed, people are stupid enough to do it, hurt themselves, etc, and then we all end up footing the bill for their stupid actions. Oh well, such is life, I suppose.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14824639#post14824639 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SRT80
so, if that bill passes that means everyone will have to turn over their corals and fish from their reef tanks? The tropical fish in the FW tanks, and reptiles too??? Even if you already have the animal, someone can just come and take it?

Is someone gonna go door to door to check on what animals you have in your house? I don't understand. Guess I need to read it again...

Section 3f says:

"Animals Owned Lawfully Prior to Prohibition of Importation- This Act and regulations issued under this Act shall not interfere with the ability of any person to possess an individual animal of any species if such individual animal was legally owned by the person before the risk assessment is begun pursuant to subsection (e)(3), even if such species is later prohibited from being imported under the regulations issued under this Act."

So we can keep fish we already have even if this passes. The bill doesn't include or exclude corals. It seems geared more toward animals.
 
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