Yellow Eye Kole Tang in 40B?

[Wet Sleeve]

Title says allot, however i'll go into detail.

i'm in the process of cycling a 40B SPS Dominated tank equipment is the following:

160W Full spectrum LED
40B Drilled W/ Eshopps Eclipse "M" overflow
Eshopps RS-100 W/ Fuge
Bare Bottom Tank for low nutrient W/ High flow
Bubble Magus Curve 5 Protein Skimmer.

with that being said i'm not going to be worried about water quality and i've made sure to go overkill on all equipment and i may add a Reactor to run bio-pellets down the line if need be.

i'd like a good grazer in the tank, Kole tang seems reasonable however i want other opinion's (please no Tang police) i do have a 1.5 year old 120G if the Kole did reach full potential.
My only stock for the tank will be potentially a Kole Tang or Mimic? 6 Line wrasse and maybe a Mandarin once i have adequate pod population.

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[Wet Sleeve]

My 120G Mixed reef

 

[marleesan]

A 40b is not big enough for a tang, I would recommend a cherub angel or other small dwarf angel if you want a grazer

 

[A sea K]

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Yes a 40 breeder is too small but with your 120 already available for rehoming once the tang outgrows the 40 then I say go for it. The mimic is probably my favorite tang but I have to admit the kole tang really is a non stop grazer. I have a juvi C. truncatus in my current system, very pretty and all yellow at this stage. Had him for several months now and has not grown noticably. Had a mimic in my previous tank for several years and he never outgrew his juvi color in that time period so he is another slow grower IMO.

 

[FishN00b83]

I like how people are asking a lot of questions on tangs lately, but say at the end "please no tang police". A 40B is not big enough for any tang. If you are looking for a grazer, look into a lawnmower blenny.

 

[ThRoewer]

A 120 is also too small for pretty much any tang.

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[A sea K]

i'd like a good grazer in the tank, Kole tang seems reasonable however i want other opinion's (please no Tang police) i do have a 1.5 year old 120G if the Kole did reach full potential.

Looks to me as if the OP is 100% prepared for the expected growth of one of the smaller types of tang.

I like how people are asking a lot of questions on tangs lately, but say at the end "please no tang police". A 40B is not big enough for any tang. If you are looking for a grazer, look into a lawnmower blenny.

Maybe you should re-read the 1st post

A 120 is also too small for pretty much any tang.

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I do consider myself a responsible aquarist (not "tang police") and take a fishes care requirements quite seriously however I must disagree with this statement as there are a few tangs IMO that will live long and happily in a 120 system. We are talking about a kole or possibly a mimic tang here and either are quite suitable for a 120 DT. FWIW I currently have a C. truncatus in the diminutive confines of my 80gal DT.

 

[FishN00b83]

Looks to me as if the OP is 100% prepared for the expected growth of one of the smaller types of tang.





Maybe you should re-read the 1st post



I do consider myself a responsible aquarist (not "tang police") and take a fishes care requirements quite seriously however I must disagree with this statement as there are a few tangs IMO that will live long and happily in a 120 system. We are talking about a kole or possibly a mimic tang here and either are quite suitable for a 120 DT. FWIW I currently have a C. truncatus in the diminutive confines of my 80gal DT.

I did read the entire post. I would never put a tang in a 40g period even if a bigger tank was available. If that's the case just put the tang in the bigger tank. A sailfin Blenny would be a much better grazer than the kole AND it could live happily in a 40b.



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[johnike]

I'd skip the 6 line, they are evil.

I have a small Kole Yellow Eye in my 93 cube and will be removing it.
Just not enough room, I'll stick to my Gobies and Potters Wrasses in there.

 

[MMacro]

IMO - Not even a small (juvie) kole tang should go in anything less than 75-100 gallons.
Not worth the troubles. By the looks of it you have already answered your own question.
If you want a grazer go with a lawnmower/starry blenny.

+10000 on the sixline
They are jerks.

 

[zchauvin]

Yellow Eye Kole Tang in 40B?

So they read over and over and over which tanks are too small for which fish and STILL ask about it, while already knowing the answer. People just don't get it. And taking a fish that swims all day in the huge *** ocean and putting in a 48" 120 much less a 40B is borderline abuse.


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[Wet Sleeve]

I'd skip the 6 line, they are evil.

I have a small Kole Yellow Eye in my 93 cube and will be removing it.
Just not enough room, I'll stick to my Gobies and Potters Wrasses in there.

i'm going with the 6 line because he's more likely to eat any pests i may or may not encounter down the line, also the system in bare bottom and 6 lines are not known to burrow. i have a Melanurus wrasse in my 120 and he's gotten lazy and just waits for seaweed and PE Mysis, and in this 40b i have no interest in keeping many fish so the aggression won't be a factor it's more of a strategic move..it's mainly going to be filled with SPS.

 

[Wet Sleeve]

i respect all your opinion's, i do think at 2.5'' he would be okay in the 40B for a little while however i will probably opt to not put a tang in.. and go with other grazers. i disagree with the comment about a 120 not being big enough for any tang though..but with that said i do have an empty 280G Starfire tank almost ready to run in my basement... no worry's.

thanks for everybody's input it's nice to see other peoples input.. and by tang police i didn't mean any harm, i simply didn't want to get bashed for putting the idea out there but simply discus it with some experience reefers!

 

[MMacro]

i respect all your opinion's, i do think at 2.5'' he would be okay in the 40B for a little while however i will probably opt to not put a tang in.. and go with other grazers. i disagree with the comment about a 120 not being big enough for any tang though..but with that said i do have an empty 280G Starfire tank almost ready to run in my basement... no worry's.

thanks for everybody's input it's nice to see other peoples input.. and by tang police i didn't mean any harm, i simply didn't want to get bashed for putting the idea out there but simply discus it with some experience reefers!

The "idea" of putting a tang in a small tank has been put out there many times. A quick search brings up many results. Most of the time it ends up with an argument.

 

[Tripod1404]

So they read over and over and over which tanks are too small for which fish and STILL ask about it, while already knowing the answer. People just don't get it. And taking a fish that swims all day in the huge *** ocean and putting in a 48" 120 much less a 40B is borderline abuse.


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Well putting a a fish that swims all day in the huge *** ocean and putting in a 6ft or even 10ft is also abuse. I completely agree that most tangs should not be kept in tanks smaller than 6ft (maybe smaller ones can be okay in 4fts). But the logic behind this is not 6ft tank is "ocean like" while 4ft is abuse. With respect to the size of the ocean and natural behavior of the fish, 4ft and 6ft doesn't really change anything.

Those are lies that we tell to our selves. A 6ft tank is probably the largest but still accessible and manageable tank out there for a home aquarist. When you want go to 8, 10, 12 feets, it becomes very hard to even find the aquarium let alone the equipping you are going to use with. You would need to custom built most of the stuff. So I say 6 feet; largest readily available tank length. A size that someone should be able to provide to a fish with reasonable ease.

 

[zchauvin]

Well putting a a fish that swims all day in the huge *** ocean and putting in a 6ft or even 10ft is also abuse. I completely agree that most tangs should not be kept in tanks smaller than 6ft (maybe smaller ones can be okay in 4fts). But the logic behind this is not 6ft tank is "ocean like" while 4ft is abuse. With respect to the size of the ocean and natural behavior of the fish, 4ft and 6ft doesn't really change anything.

Those are lies that we tell to our selves. A 6ft tank is probably the largest but still accessible and manageable tank out there for a home aquarist. When you want go to 8, 10, 12 feets, it becomes very hard to even find the aquarium let alone the equipping you are going to use with. You would need to custom built most of the stuff. So I say 6 feet; largest readily available tank length. A size that someone should be able to provide to a fish with reasonable ease.

Exactly. Which is why some things are better left alone.


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[bean2986]

I recently removed a Kole from a 65g 36" because he turned into a psychopath. 36" tank definitely too small even with the extra gallonage that you won't have.

 

[JustinM]

A 120 is also too small for pretty much any tang.

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I agree, my kole tang goes nuts in my 120.

 

[sdbc]

I think a Kole Tang should be fine in a 40. They are fairly timid and not very robust from my experience. Be aware that every fish is different, so when you think you are getting a grazer, you could end up with a pretty fish that only eats prepared foods and doesn't touch algae. I would get whatever fish you like and plan to control algae another way. If the fish ends up eating algae, consider it a bonus.

 

[Joe0813]

I had a kole in a 75 and he was fine. only time id ever put a tang in a 40 is to QT them. as others have said if you want something for grazing then id get a lawnmower blenny. mine ate off the rocks all day long and cleaned up the algae pretty good.