Yellow sebae - dyed?
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ThRoewer
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That one was likely chemically bleached and then dyed - a very sad practice from the times when reef tanks were not able to sustain anemones or corals.
I would have a talk with the LFS and tell them that this is not a way to build a good reputation as these anemone are like cut flowers - slowly dying.
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I would have a talk with the LFS and tell them that this is not a way to build a good reputation as these anemone are like cut flowers - slowly dying.
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CoralsAddiction
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At what level is this usually done? I suspect exporter rather than wholesale or LFS, which would make it less likely LFS knew it was dyed in the first place, right? Whatever the case may be, it's sad.
I bet you're right that they're done before they are imported, but if the store has had many of them as the OP indicates they either don't know enough about their livestock to recognize that they are dyed, or they just don't care. In either case not a good sign and would be strong arguments for me to take my business elsewhere.
geckoejon
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please don't put words into my mouth... i did not state that "the store has had many of them"... i stated that "lfs's have been getting a lot of these bright yellow sebaes in lately..." i have actually seen them at 3 different lfs's in the past week. this would point towards one of the main wholesale distributors having a batch in.
i seriously doubt that the people at the shops know the difference. i notified them that they were dyed. i just wanted some collaboration before i notified them...
ThRoewer
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It's done at the export station. I think this practice is mostly limited to Indonesia and the Philippines.
Though at primary fault are the importers/wholesalers which still import them and the LFS who take them and then sell them to unsuspecting customers.
The really sad thing is that even "reputable" wholesalers still import these death candidates because there is still a market for them. One I know of is De Jong in the Netherlands - they even have them listed on their website.
I would suggest to call the stores out that sell them and let them know what you think about it. I would also warn other customers if I see them being interested in such anemone.
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Though at primary fault are the importers/wholesalers which still import them and the LFS who take them and then sell them to unsuspecting customers.
The really sad thing is that even "reputable" wholesalers still import these death candidates because there is still a market for them. One I know of is De Jong in the Netherlands - they even have them listed on their website.
I would suggest to call the stores out that sell them and let them know what you think about it. I would also warn other customers if I see them being interested in such anemone.
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Not my intention to put words in your mouth, just misread the original statement.
Still if a bunch of random hobbyists can look at one picture and know what's going on, the supposed experts at the store not knowing or not caring is pretty shameful in my mind. I don't want to turn this into an LFS rant, but if I were them and I received one of those I wouldn't sell it and would have a word with the supplier.
CoralsAddiction
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I think this is true. I also think that people who frequent this section of the forum is a self selected group of people who posses higher interest and knowledge of host anemones. About 65% of hobbyists that I know are content with BTAs and aren't interested in anything else, much less knowing the colors of all different host anemones. As such, I don't expect LFS workers to know a lot about this kind of stuff. For example, I don't know anything about seahorses and pipefish. Like 0 knowledge and that's ok LOL. And that there are hundreds of people in the hobby that feel the same way about anemones.
Of course it's ok for you to not know something like that, but I'm not sure I agree that it's ok for a LFS who sells them not to. Probably even worse would be knowingly selling something that has little chance of survival as a healthy specimen. Maybe scratching for every possible dollar is the only way to keep a LFS in buisiness these days, but it seems very much counter to the ideals of care and appreciation for the natural world that I think this hobby is ultimately about.
CoralsAddiction
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No, it's not ok. I was an example of a hobbyists who didn't particular care about a certain aspect of the hobby. LFS knowledge should always be superior but I've only noticed it with less than 50% of fish stores. Some are very knowledgeable and passionate about marine life. Others can care less about spending the extra time to learn.
But as far as chain of custody goes, wholesale usually doesn't get to inspect what they import. By the time they get it, money has exchanged hands and can't really send an item back across the globe. So they put it up for sale and LFS picks them up.
CoralsAddiction
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I think the more recent improvement has been with BTAs with less and less of them being dyed. Hopefully this will soon be the case with all the nems.
You are not alone in this observation, though I don't expect every LFS employee to be an encyclopedia. On the store level the management or whoever controls the inventory is responsible for what's in the tanks and making sure they can help their customers make informed decisions, or at least try not to rip anybody off.
Makes sense, which means that for a practice like this to stop it's ultimately on the consumer base to stop the demand. Not sure I like the chances of that though...
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