10 gal HT too small?

[ThRoewer]

Next month, when starting to set up my new tank I will need to put my crispa into one of my 10 gallon QT/HTs until the new tank is cycled enough to put it in there.
Would that be too small?

The anemone is completely bleached and also constantly deflating so I'm thinking to take the opportunity to treat it with Ciprofloxacin or Trimethoprim/Sulfamethoxazole. Which of the two is the best for treating a crispa?

 

[D-Nak]

Next month, when starting to set up my new tank I will need to put my crispa into one of my 10 gallon QT/HTs until the new tank is cycled enough to put it in there.
Would that be too small?

The anemone is completely bleached and also constantly deflating so I'm thinking to take the opportunity to treat it with Ciprofloxacin or Trimethoprim/Sulfamethoxazole. Which of the two is the best for treating a crispa?

A 10 gallon is the standard size for QT. I've never treated a crispa, but I've had better luck with Cipro than with Septra for treating gigs. Just remember to do daily water changes and you don't have to worry about pollutants.

 

[ThRoewer]

How much water change every day? Is one gallon enough or would 50% be better.

How much Cipro do you have to dose on 10 gal? I have 500mg tablets that can be split in half. How often to re-dose it and for how long?

Would you use a skimmer during the treatment? I have a Red Sea Berlin Airlift 60 skimmer.

 

[clorox]

You should read the sticky about treating sick gigs that OrionN wrote. All the info you need is there.

 

[ThRoewer]

Actually, I haven't found an answer if a skimmer can be used during treatment. So for now I will leave it on.

Also, since the anemone is bleached, does it need light or is the ambient room and daylight enough during the treatment phase?

 

[OrionN]

You should provide the best light you can so it will help the anemone recover. Waste removal through water change. Skimmer have know affect on medication level. With the water change you should do, other method of waste removal not needed

 

[ThRoewer]

Right now I use a 75W equivalent Philips daylight LED bulb.
I have a second Kessil A360WE but I'm afraid it will be too strong for a bleached anemone.

Also, can you double the Cipro dose to 500mg per 10gal of water?

And is it possible to treat 2 anemones at the same time?
My Stichodactyla tapetum started tearing in half. Either it's splitting, or it got accidentally injured (no idea how since it just moved by itself along the front glass) or my peppermint shrimps started feeding on it (I caught them several times tearing on it).

 

[ThRoewer]

I feel the treatment is making it worse. This morning the anemone was all contracted and had its mouth out. The water smells like anemone slime.

 

[raythepilot]

OK I wrote this post specifically for small tank people needing to do a Cipro protocol. Check it out.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23633951&postcount=181

 

[ThRoewer]

Interesting post!

I got a unused betta cube that holds 2 liters and would have the right proportions. I also have a bunch of 1 gallon clear plastic shoe boxes but they may be too flat.

Though will 2 liters and an airline be enough for an anemone that can stink up 10 times that water volume?

Also how precise does the dosage have to be? I could grind up a tablet and divide the powder into let's say 10 equal piles. Would that be precise enough?
Would an overdose be a problem?

 

[ThRoewer]

Still have it in the 10 gallon tank and this morning it is looking better.

 

[ThRoewer]

... and then it deflated again.
I did another full water change, including full tank cleaning and dosed another half Cipro tablet.

So far the treatment hasn't given any lasting improvement.

 

[raythepilot]

Interesting post!

I got a unused betta cube that holds 2 liters and would have the right proportions. I also have a bunch of 1 gallon clear plastic shoe boxes but they may be too flat.

Though will 2 liters and an airline be enough for an anemone that can stink up 10 times that water volume?

Also how precise does the dosage have to be? I could grind up a tablet and divide the powder into let's say 10 equal piles. Would that be precise enough?
Would an overdose be a problem?

Try it for 1 day. If the water still smells bad increase the water changes to 2 x per day.
I don't know if doing it by eye will work. For 2L you would need 20 mg or 250/20 = 12.5 or 1/12.5 of a tablet. So divide the contents into 3 equal parts and the divide each in half twice. If they all look the same OK. But it will be a very small amount!

 

[raythepilot]

... and then it deflated again.
I did another full water change, including full tank cleaning and dosed another half Cipro tablet.

So far the treatment hasn't given any lasting improvement.

When you do 100% water changes, you have to be very carful that the water you make up is accurate and at the same temperature as the water you are removing.

If the temperature is off by 1 or 2 deg or if the SG is 1.025 instead of 1.026 the change will shock the nem and cause it to deflate.

More than anything else: The water you put in has to be exactly the same as the water you take out except for the nem waste! So, make up 10x what you need then the water is always the same at each change. If you have to change batches do a couple of 25% water changes first with the new batch before you do a 100% water change.

 

[ThRoewer]

I probably stick with the 10 gallon tank for now as the anemone is too big for a 2 liter cube when inflated. But I will keep this in mind when I need to treat a smaller anemone in the future.

Last morning the anemone was inflated and stayed that way throughout the day but then started to deflate again in the late evening.
This time I only did an about 60% water change since the water looked pretty crisp.
The anemone deflated completely while syphoning the water off and stayed that way while I let the replacement water in via an air hose.
I dissolved another half tablet for the night.

When checking it later it had its mouth open. I guess it still has ways to go.

Let's see how it looks tomorrow morning and throughout the day.