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Hi all, back from vacation. Bermuda probably has the nicest beaches I've ever been to!!
The snorkeling was tough b/c the waters were rough and a bit cloudy b/c of the hurricanes. I did go twice and saw some great fish. Saw some parrot fishes that were easily 3 feet long!
Sorry, no pics.
Anyway, I'm BACK and ready to continue. The basement is finished and, about an hour after we got home on Saturday I was already at it with a minor update.
Here's some pics...
looking out from the tank area
exercise room
Looking at the tank room from the side
With the new door
(Also, notice the vent we put in that will allow air to be drawn into the tank room)
You can see the sink to the left
On the wall is the timer for the exhuast fan
And, among the other circuits in the room, two dedicated 20-amp lines:
Update
Hi all, back from vacation. Bermuda probably has the nicest beaches I've ever been to!!
The snorkeling was tough b/c the waters were rough and a bit cloudy b/c of the hurricanes. I did go twice and saw some great fish. Saw some parrot fishes that were easily 3 feet long!
Sorry, no pics.
Anyway, I'm BACK and ready to continue. The basement is finished and, about an hour after we got home on Saturday I was already at it with a minor update.
Here's some pics...
looking out from the tank area
exercise room
Looking at the tank room from the side
With the new door
(Also, notice the vent we put in that will allow air to be drawn into the tank room)
You can see the sink to the left
On the wall is the timer for the exhuast fan
And, among the other circuits in the room, two dedicated 20-amp lines:
bheron
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Yes! Yes it will indeed!
I'm planning on moving the tank onto the stand this week, so I have a couple of updates:
1) Cut the top of the stand.
I finally went and cut out the top of the stand for the overflow from the tank. This was tough b/c I had to do it w/out the tank being on top of the stand. So, I probably measured about 20 times before and after cutting the holes. So I'm confident I cut them in the right place. Here's some pics:
Measuring and marking the spot:
Cutting it out with my jigsaw
And a shot of both cutouts for both "MegaFlows"
(Also, you can see the vent from this side as well. This will pull air from the main room and over the sump)
2) Next is moving the tank itself onto the stand, and the whole thing about the foam in between the stand.
I had sent an email to the tank manufacturer before vacation and, while I was away, received a response back from them. I've asked for some more details, but here's what they said:
"We do not recommend using Styrofoam with
our tanks and stands, but I do know that some hobbyists do. Some of our
stands are made to support only the outer rim and there is no flat
bottom for the tank to sit on."
So I may put a couple thin layers of this stuff, if anything, in between the tank and the stand.
The drama continues!!
3) If you've followed along above, I still have some shimming to finish up as well.
Bottom line, I should have someone available to help move this week (Thurs) and have this monster onto the stand by then!
Still a bit away from having water, but it'll be exciting!
I'm planning on moving the tank onto the stand this week, so I have a couple of updates:
1) Cut the top of the stand.
I finally went and cut out the top of the stand for the overflow from the tank. This was tough b/c I had to do it w/out the tank being on top of the stand. So, I probably measured about 20 times before and after cutting the holes. So I'm confident I cut them in the right place. Here's some pics:
Measuring and marking the spot:
Cutting it out with my jigsaw
And a shot of both cutouts for both "MegaFlows"
(Also, you can see the vent from this side as well. This will pull air from the main room and over the sump)
2) Next is moving the tank itself onto the stand, and the whole thing about the foam in between the stand.
I had sent an email to the tank manufacturer before vacation and, while I was away, received a response back from them. I've asked for some more details, but here's what they said:
"We do not recommend using Styrofoam with
our tanks and stands, but I do know that some hobbyists do. Some of our
stands are made to support only the outer rim and there is no flat
bottom for the tank to sit on."
So I may put a couple thin layers of this stuff, if anything, in between the tank and the stand.
The drama continues!!
3) If you've followed along above, I still have some shimming to finish up as well.
Bottom line, I should have someone available to help move this week (Thurs) and have this monster onto the stand by then!
Still a bit away from having water, but it'll be exciting!
melev
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Those holes are in the wrong spot. Sorry.
just kidding!
Regarding the foam: Always do what the mfg recommends. If this tank suddenly fails (which would suck), they won't have any excuses if you followed their instructions. You better keep a copy of that email as part of your warranty.
Regarding the vent: Well, it may draw in air, but won't it also allow noise to be more readily heard in the adjoining room?
just kidding!
Regarding the foam: Always do what the mfg recommends. If this tank suddenly fails (which would suck), they won't have any excuses if you followed their instructions. You better keep a copy of that email as part of your warranty.
Regarding the vent: Well, it may draw in air, but won't it also allow noise to be more readily heard in the adjoining room?
Knyght
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melev said:
Correct!
And the stand is in the wrong spot also, as is the basement!
It`s not in my house. Now how, I ask you, could those contractors be that far off
I live in Oklahoma, not PA!!!
Seriously though it is coming along quite nicely. Looking like every thing will have it`s spot, and everything will be in it`s spot. Keep up the nice work. :thumbsup:
:beachbum:
bheron
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Originally posted by melev
Those holes are in the wrong spot. Sorry.
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:eek2: Dude for about 20 seconds I panicked and scrolled up to my photo racking my brain on how I screwed that one up!!! Holy shnikees!
Well, thats what I get for being such a worrywort!!
Man, Marc, you had me. Took me about 5 mins to scroll down.
Thanks.
To your comment "Regarding the vent: Well, it may draw in air, but won't it also allow noise to be more readily heard in the adjoining room?"
- Yes. Very true point. I've thought about that and figured I'd try it since it was worth it to have a nice pull of air into the room. I may either switch to a vent with a shutter, or no vent at all.
Thanks, lets see what happens as far as noise (I really do want to keep the noise concealed from the main room where we'll be watching movies on my big screen.
Hey Knyght, thanks for the kind comments. So you read the part about the contractors. Yea, pretty wacky, huh? You should hear about my carpet guy who I've used for the 5th time now and each time I tell myself its the last time!! I swear, this is the last time now.
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Originally posted by melev
Those holes are in the wrong spot. Sorry.
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:eek2: Dude for about 20 seconds I panicked and scrolled up to my photo racking my brain on how I screwed that one up!!! Holy shnikees!
Well, thats what I get for being such a worrywort!!
Man, Marc, you had me. Took me about 5 mins to scroll down.
Thanks.
To your comment "Regarding the vent: Well, it may draw in air, but won't it also allow noise to be more readily heard in the adjoining room?"
- Yes. Very true point. I've thought about that and figured I'd try it since it was worth it to have a nice pull of air into the room. I may either switch to a vent with a shutter, or no vent at all.
Thanks, lets see what happens as far as noise (I really do want to keep the noise concealed from the main room where we'll be watching movies on my big screen.
Hey Knyght, thanks for the kind comments. So you read the part about the contractors. Yea, pretty wacky, huh? You should hear about my carpet guy who I've used for the 5th time now and each time I tell myself its the last time!! I swear, this is the last time now.
melev
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Sorry, I couldn't resist. <i>Especially</i> when you said you measured it about 20 times before cutting.
You might be able to put some type of foam filter padding in the vent, to muffle the sound and stop anything from flowing in or out of the room via the vent, like a filter would. Air would pass through, but particulates and salt creep would be trapped hopefully.
You might be able to put some type of foam filter padding in the vent, to muffle the sound and stop anything from flowing in or out of the room via the vent, like a filter would. Air would pass through, but particulates and salt creep would be trapped hopefully.
Knyght
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:lol:
You make your contractors out to sound like a local machinist I knew, passed away just last year in his 90`s.
Cantankerous gentleman if I ever met one, but could make anything you wanted out of metal.
I like the vent with a shutter idea. You could totally close it, if you wanted.
As for a filter I would suggest one such as those used on central heat and air systems. May not provide much in the way of sound proofing however.
:beachbum:
You make your contractors out to sound like a local machinist I knew, passed away just last year in his 90`s.
Cantankerous gentleman if I ever met one, but could make anything you wanted out of metal.
I like the vent with a shutter idea. You could totally close it, if you wanted.
As for a filter I would suggest one such as those used on central heat and air systems. May not provide much in the way of sound proofing however.
:beachbum:
dickeybrazil
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nice
bheron
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Thats a good idea - the foam padding. I would easily allow the air through and might help in muffling the sound. Hmmmm. Good thoughts.
"You make your contractors out to sound like a local machinist I knew, passed away just last year in his 90`s.
Cantankerous gentleman if I ever met one, but could make anything you wanted out of metal."
:lol: - You would think, right!? Actually he's in his early 40's and is one of those people who will never, EVER, admit he's wrong. No matter the situation he refuses and would rather outright lie than admit he forgot to do something or did something wrong. THATs one of the things I've learned in this latest go-round.
Dickey - thanks for the words.
"You make your contractors out to sound like a local machinist I knew, passed away just last year in his 90`s.
Cantankerous gentleman if I ever met one, but could make anything you wanted out of metal."
:lol: - You would think, right!? Actually he's in his early 40's and is one of those people who will never, EVER, admit he's wrong. No matter the situation he refuses and would rather outright lie than admit he forgot to do something or did something wrong. THATs one of the things I've learned in this latest go-round.
Dickey - thanks for the words.
Im Lon 2
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Looking good. That is one thing good about hiring a contractor to do the work. I started mine back in March but have been put on hold do to the summer months and being busy. The good thing is I do have my tank setup. Have to finish the wall.. Mud, tape, paint, trim and door. I do have it dry walled. But the tank is doing great
Marc I'm glad you said something about that vent and noise. I was thinking that is a great Idea. but I think I will wait till the door is up and then close the door and see how much sound it blocks, then open the door a little and see how bad that is.. Right now it is not seem really that loud with no door but I could be use to it too, once I put the door up that might change things.
The only thing I see you might have a problem with is the sump being right next to the vent. You might have a lot of splashing sound in your sump, but you maybe able to silent that down a bit. The only thing that is loud on mine is the Skimmer outlet splashing back to the sump. With the vent being low to the ground that could help it not being so loud.
But again everything is looking great!!!
Marc I'm glad you said something about that vent and noise. I was thinking that is a great Idea. but I think I will wait till the door is up and then close the door and see how much sound it blocks, then open the door a little and see how bad that is.. Right now it is not seem really that loud with no door but I could be use to it too, once I put the door up that might change things.
The only thing I see you might have a problem with is the sump being right next to the vent. You might have a lot of splashing sound in your sump, but you maybe able to silent that down a bit. The only thing that is loud on mine is the Skimmer outlet splashing back to the sump. With the vent being low to the ground that could help it not being so loud.
But again everything is looking great!!!
bheron
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The carpet was installed today and the basement is...........................
DONE :eek1:
Thats about 7 weeks start to finish (the carpet delaying it for a full week). So the basement, itself, was done in 6 weeks flat!
We spent the evening moving in some furniture, and now it actually looks like a room, instead of "workshop" for my addiction! I actually now feel like I have to be careful what I do down there
Some pics:
The tank will be moved, hopefully, on thurs nite when I get my rather large, younger brother to come over and help me move the big screen. I'll spring the 210 gallon glass tank on him before he knows what hit him. bam! we'll have the tank on the stand
DONE :eek1:
Thats about 7 weeks start to finish (the carpet delaying it for a full week). So the basement, itself, was done in 6 weeks flat!
We spent the evening moving in some furniture, and now it actually looks like a room, instead of "workshop" for my addiction! I actually now feel like I have to be careful what I do down there
Some pics:
The tank will be moved, hopefully, on thurs nite when I get my rather large, younger brother to come over and help me move the big screen. I'll spring the 210 gallon glass tank on him before he knows what hit him. bam! we'll have the tank on the stand
weatherson
Premium Member
Very nicely done! The room looks very cozy now. Beer, TV and a tank. What more do you need?
Quick question since you are talking about setting the tank in place soon. What do you plan to do with the wall ends that meet the tank end and back? Are you going to paint the back and end of the tank where these are black or do you plan to paint these wall end-caps black? Or... do you plan to leave them be? Which is it?
Quick question since you are talking about setting the tank in place soon. What do you plan to do with the wall ends that meet the tank end and back? Are you going to paint the back and end of the tank where these are black or do you plan to paint these wall end-caps black? Or... do you plan to leave them be? Which is it?
bheron
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Melev - That is awesome. Very very nice. It does look finished. Come over here and make my house look finished too!
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Thanks! But, as I keep saying - it wasnt me, I just paid the contractor...well, I convinced the wife that it was a good idea to pay the contractor!
Weatherson - Very nicely done! The room looks very cozy now. Beer, TV and a tank. What more do you need?
!!! You noticed the beermeister. Yes, that was part of my "trifecta" at our hold house and will be part of it here: Fish Tank, PS2, and Beer.
Quick question since you are talking about setting the tank in place soon. What do you plan to do with the wall ends that meet the tank end and back? Are you going to paint the back and end of the tank where these are black or do you plan to paint these wall end-caps black? Or... do you plan to leave them be? Which is it?
Good question. I dont know :eek2: Havent really thought about that now that you bring it up. I guess I've been planning on using some sort of removable background for the back and side. I'd rather have something I can move/change rather than paint something more permanently. I've always been a big fan of the old, reliable, paper-like backgrounds that your LFS sells on rolls I probably wont go that way here though. I definitely want a nice, deep blue color and was thinking, maybe, just painting some thin acrylic.
Also, b/c the tank itself has a plastic trim around the top and bottom, the glass will never 'butt' up against the wall itself. the trim will do that and leave a thin gap between the glass and the wall. I'm thinking this is where I can 'slide' the acrylic in and out on the one side.
Dont know how I'd secure it on the back but I do know I'd like it removable in case 1) i want to see whats going on in the back of the tank and 2) in case I want to change the color some day.
Thoughts? :eek1:
PS - thanks to both of you again for your help, input, and kind words. it inspires me to keep updating this on a regular basis.
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Thanks! But, as I keep saying - it wasnt me, I just paid the contractor...well, I convinced the wife that it was a good idea to pay the contractor!Weatherson - Very nicely done! The room looks very cozy now. Beer, TV and a tank. What more do you need?
!!! You noticed the beermeister. Yes, that was part of my "trifecta" at our hold house and will be part of it here: Fish Tank, PS2, and Beer.
Quick question since you are talking about setting the tank in place soon. What do you plan to do with the wall ends that meet the tank end and back? Are you going to paint the back and end of the tank where these are black or do you plan to paint these wall end-caps black? Or... do you plan to leave them be? Which is it?
Good question. I dont know :eek2: Havent really thought about that now that you bring it up. I guess I've been planning on using some sort of removable background for the back and side. I'd rather have something I can move/change rather than paint something more permanently. I've always been a big fan of the old, reliable, paper-like backgrounds that your LFS sells on rolls
I probably wont go that way here though. I definitely want a nice, deep blue color and was thinking, maybe, just painting some thin acrylic.Also, b/c the tank itself has a plastic trim around the top and bottom, the glass will never 'butt' up against the wall itself. the trim will do that and leave a thin gap between the glass and the wall. I'm thinking this is where I can 'slide' the acrylic in and out on the one side.
Dont know how I'd secure it on the back but I do know I'd like it removable in case 1) i want to see whats going on in the back of the tank and 2) in case I want to change the color some day.
Thoughts? :eek1:
PS - thanks to both of you again for your help, input, and kind words. it inspires me to keep updating this on a regular basis.
Im Lon 2
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Wow!! Looks good. Can't wait till I get time to start working on mine again..
On my sides and back I plan on doing something like you said.. I will put a piece of Plexiglas that has been painted so I can take it off and see in the tank when ever I want. You will find out that is the only good way to see in the tank since you cannot get in the tank from the front. To move things around in the front of the tank from the behind the tank, I have to turn off all power heads and return pumps so the water does not have any movement then you can see to the bottom of the tank. In-wall tanks look great, but not the easiest when you are wanting to move things around.. Hard to see and reach from the back. Keep your Salt buckets!!
On my sides and back I plan on doing something like you said.. I will put a piece of Plexiglas that has been painted so I can take it off and see in the tank when ever I want. You will find out that is the only good way to see in the tank since you cannot get in the tank from the front. To move things around in the front of the tank from the behind the tank, I have to turn off all power heads and return pumps so the water does not have any movement then you can see to the bottom of the tank. In-wall tanks look great, but not the easiest when you are wanting to move things around.. Hard to see and reach from the back. Keep your Salt buckets!!
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