http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ThXVYKAz4 I had four in a cube and my female was fine. but the males started to fight.99percent of the time the female tries to kill the third clown.in my case the boys would fight. so only two per tank.
3 clowns
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SmoothSmoke
New member
Awesome! What type of clowns are they?
I have the same experience, but you know I mostly keep big bruiser clowns
I just meant the thought of a big carpet and small less aggressive clowns might be what's working, if the third wheel hides enough in the folds.
davocean
Active member
^^ I think more so than just the third wheel hiding in folds, the very few that can pull this off, and there are very few, are ones that may have gotten lucky and have that third wheel be at a sexless stage, therefore not a threat.
I know some get lucky, but in the process of trying to help newbies or others I normally do not support the exceptions to the rules generally speaking.
I know you Peter were one of those exceptions, just rather than a fold in a nem it was a fold in a sea of anthias!lol
I know some get lucky, but in the process of trying to help newbies or others I normally do not support the exceptions to the rules generally speaking.
I know you Peter were one of those exceptions, just rather than a fold in a nem it was a fold in a sea of anthias!lol
deangelr
Clown Whisperererer
Ya we've got roughly 25 breeding pairs, all tanks started out with 3-4 clowns, now out of the 25 tanks only about 7 or so have 3 or more clowns, and of those 7 I think only 2 are spawning..
Setting up another 30 pairs now with the same dynamics so well see how it goes..
Setting up another 30 pairs now with the same dynamics so well see how it goes..
davocean
Active member
And I think that is even being overly optimistic.
Since I have joined this site, and being most of my time spent is in this particular forum, I can count what I have read in success stories of doing this long term on probably one hand, and while I wish nothing negative on anyone, I still have thoughts in the back of my mind will that success story be told the same later on down the road.
15 years ago, the same was often said about keeping gigantea anemones. 
15 years ago, the same was often said about keeping gigantea anemones.
Proper water chemistry, lighting, filtration, and general husbandry has no effect on fish hierarchy. Trust me, I've tried
Proper water chemistry, lighting, filtration, and general husbandry has no effect on fish hierarchy. Trust me, I've tried
But perhaps other factors do.
Type of clowns, age on mixing, anemones present, other fish present or not, particular foods, particular practices that you do or do not do (limewater?GAC? GFO?Skimming? Vinegar? the right balance of all of these?, etc.
Folks suggesting it is a random, freak occurrence may be right, or they may just not know the right conditions. That's why I equated it to keeping giganteas 15 years ago.
Obviously, groups of 3+ is a natural behavior for many clowns, and IMO it is perfectly reasonable to think that such groups could be obtained in a proper aquarium under proper conditions. Proof that it can be obtained is present in my tank if no other. As a scientist I'd say it is fairly likely that someone who duplicated my system exactly is likely to have similar results, but not guaranteed since fish personalities are involved.
I'll also note that this is the same basic system (but different clowns) where I had a breeding pair of ocellaris clowns living only a few inches from a breeding pair of pink skunk clowns. That lasted for at least a couple of years. Is that purely a coincidence, or something about my system? Since I've had less than ten clowns in the 15+ history of my system, it is not because I burned through lots of them trying something strange. I've never lost one to fighting.
But perhaps other factors do.
Type of clowns, age on mixing, anemones present, other fish present or not, particular foods, particular practices that you do or do not do (limewater?GAC? GFO?Skimming? Vinegar? the right balance of all of these?, etc.
Folks suggesting it is a random, freak occurrence may be right, or they may just not know the right conditions. That's why I equated it to keeping giganteas 15 years ago.
Obviously, groups of 3+ is a natural behavior for many clowns, and IMO it is perfectly reasonable to think that such groups could be obtained in a proper aquarium under proper conditions. Proof that it can be obtained is present in my tank if no other. As a scientist I'd say it is fairly likely that someone who duplicated my system exactly is likely to have similar results, but not guaranteed since fish personalities are involved.
I'll also note that this is the same basic system (but different clowns) where I had a breeding pair of ocellaris clowns living only a few inches from a breeding pair of pink skunk clowns. That lasted for at least a couple of years. Is that purely a coincidence, or something about my system? Since I've had less than ten clowns in the 15+ history of my system, it is not because I burned through lots of them trying something strange. I've never lost one to fighting.
Yup!... You'll notice I stopped at limewater, that's when it becomes a bid voodoo for me
:lol:
Maybe they love it?
Maybe they love it?
OrionN
Moved on
I have never loose Ocellaris and Percula when I try to put them together in Trio. I think it is important that they are all immature when we put them together. I did added two SnowOnyx to a mature Onyx pair before. The adult was rough on the two Juveniles but did nto kill them. I had 3 gigantea in a 100 gal cube at the time. The adule chase the little on they just jump to another anemone. There are three anemones an only two adults, so they cannot cover all their bases. After a week or soI can see them all together in the large anemone. I also have trio of Onyx Percula, Ocellaris and Pink skunk trio. I think with these three species there will not be much problem if the babies are all young and will grow up together
