3 New Fish Died

What makes matters worse is the (2) clowns that died were a B&W Ocellaris and a Wyoming White Ocellaris that paired up immediately.
 
could it be some kind of gill disease that has no signs of showing like ich maybe they were infected at the store? and maybe the transportation made it worse... just throwing that out there .....all three brand new and all three die,,, you didn't find any purple capes or kool aid ?? just kidding
 
nitr8 said:
I've been in the hobby for quite a while and if you read my build thread I've been planning, researching and building this tank for the past three years and finally got it up and running. In no way shape or form did I fill up a glass box with water and expect a reef tank.

Here is when everything was added.
7/9: water
7/19: chromis
7/21: cycle complete (NH4: 0, NO2: 0)
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And yet, you added a fish before the '12 day cycle' was 'complete' !
 
snake1 said:
could it be some kind of gill disease that has no signs of showing like ich maybe they were infected at the store? and maybe the transportation made it worse... just throwing that out there .....all three brand new and all three die,,, you didn't find any purple capes or kool aid ?? just kidding
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This may be the case. The store had a 25% off sale and then a 30% off sale on fish. Maybe they are cutting their loses.
 
I don't understand why two people are bashing me. Both of you are off topic and not helpful. The cycle fish was added almost two months ago and alive today. How does that explain or help to figure out what happened the 3 new fish that died? Get back on topic or leave the thread.
 
ReefDabs710 said:
You know bhsgk everyones entitled to their own opinion, just not their own facts.
Seems reefer54 has the same opinion as me aswell.
My opinion is that your some kind of snob, because you seemed pretty rude, but hay that's just my opinion.
Were all here to learn and or help, so chill out.... Telling me I can't post...
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I didn't say don't post. I in fact pointed you in the direction of the new to the hobby section, a place for people like yourself, to ask questions and learn. You shouldn't be answering questions on subjects that you don't know anything about. Merely repeating something that your LFS told you means nothing.

Not once did nitr8 mention any signs of ich.

And hey, hay is for horses
 
haha - thread disasters happen - haters gonna hate. trolls will be trolls.

As does fish death. Its a bummer - I know, Ive been there.
Sometimes its just stress and no single thing you did could prevent the loss.
Sometimes they came from the LFS with a condition (did you ask them to feed them before purchase)

Sorry to hear of your loss.
 
bhsgk said:
No. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're mixing up quite a few things and none of them are applicable in this case. You have a lot to learn before you should be answering questions. Feel free to start your own threads with your own questions in the New To The Hobby sub-forum, but please refrain from answering questions about things you know nothing about.
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WOW! Someone must be channeling my psyche this morning. :lol::inlove::lol:
 
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nitr8 said:
I'm a firm believer in a cycle fish to produce waste. This is very common.
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This WAS very common... however in the 21st century, it is frowned upon!
If you wish to continue being a 'firm believer' in this, it would be a good idea to know how to do it right...which would not involve adding your 'cycle fish' at the middle or end of the cycle!

As for your question of dying fish...IMO, there is the chance that the tank was not fully cycled ...you continued to add LS...those additions continued/delayed the cycle and survived it, but the 3 new fish could not handle it!
 
albano said:
This WAS very common... however in the 21st century, it is frowned upon!
Frowned upon by some, not all. This is your opinion, not fact.

If you wish to continue being a 'firm believer' in this, it would be a good idea to know how to do it right...which would not involve adding your 'cycle fish' at the middle or end of the cycle!
Seems as though I did it just right because the fish served its purpose and is still alive.

As for your question of dying fish...IMO, there is the chance that the tank was not fully cycled ...you continued to add LS...those additions continued/delayed the cycle and survived it, but the 3 new fish could not handle it!
If I've just been continuing/delaying the cycle by adding fish than why haven't I had ammonia or nitrite since 7/21? Also the Orange Spot Blenny was added two days prior and is still alive.
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Don't usually get involved in threads like this however I can't help myself. You are advocating putting an animals life at risk when there are other proven methods that can be used. Best case you have shortened the life span of the fish and seriously harmed it. Worst case would have been the death of the fish.

This is frowned upon by the majority of people just as dog fighting is. If you want to take a more extreme example. I'm sure some people feel slavery is okay, though it is an opinion. Obnoxious example, however I can't get past someone knowingly wanting to hurt an animal to accomplish a goal that could be done both without harming an animal and also more cheaply.
 

Now to try and help, did you see the initial spikes? I see you said they were reading zero, just wondering if you ever saw them not be zero. That seems like a very short cycle, did you add live rock? Are your test kits expired? I had a test kit consistently show zero even though I could visually see some of my corals looking off. I ordered a different brand and found it was off.

What kind of QT process are you using? It sounds like you are adding directly to the tank. This can work, however it puts your entire tank at risk and doesn't let you quickly treat for disease if you do find something. Something that quick that only impacted the three fish would leave me to believe a swing in ph or salinity. I wouldn't think disease at least initially because you would most likely see some signs.
 
Harriscli said:
Don't usually get involved in threads like this however I can't help myself. You are advocating putting an animals life at risk when there are other proven methods that can be used. Best case you have shortened the life span of the fish and seriously harmed it. Worst case would have been the death of the fish.

This is frowned upon by the majority of people just as dog fighting is. If you want to take a more extreme example. I'm sure some people feel slavery is okay, though it is an opinion. Obnoxious example, however I can't get past someone knowingly wanting to hurt an animal to accomplish a goal that could be done both without harming an animal and also more cheaply.
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WOW. Pretty extreme to say the least. So it's not okay to use a chromis to cycle a tank (which costs $5, doesn't get much cheaper than that) but it is okay for the masses to attempt a school of chromis regularly and in most cases knowing they will end up with only one or two at best. I'd be willing to bet that at least one of you who are bashing me have done this, if not all. If you want to get extreme, what about the poor mysis shrimp or krill you sacrifice to conveniently feed your fish on a daily basis. I mean really? How far do you want to take this? What makes this even more ridiculous is this has nothing to do with the issue at hand. If you want to start a "Let's save the world, one fish at a time foundation" than please do so else where.
 
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