360G - Wavebox + Streams

[SonsOfLeda]

What are my options as far as waveboxes go with an aquarium of these dimensions - 58"x48"x30?

In regards to directional flow, I'm going with at least four controllable streams on the back/side walls (maybe six?). Would 6105s be my best bet, or should I ramp it up to 6205s?

Thanks for your suggestions in advance!

- Eric

 

[Jar*Head]

Eric, for wave i would go with 2 tunze waveboxes and couple 6205 for directional...

 

[SonsOfLeda]

Is there a way to mount these boxes externally? I definately don't want to be taking that much space inside of the tank for two of these guys.

And, really? Only a pair of streams? I suppose that makes sense if I can get the wave action working properly (and they can be mounted externally).

Without the waveboxes, what would you recommend for flow? How many streams, and which ones? What's the reason for choosing 6205s over 6105s?

- Eric

 

[Jar*Head]

I would start with 2 tunze 6205. It is depend on what you want to keep in the tank. As for ext wavebox it is possible and i only recommended on Acrylic tank or tank made by AGE. DIY is gambling IMO..

 

[SonsOfLeda]

So I'm leaning towards going with an AGE tank after seeing Dudester's 450G in-wall with built in waveboxes in his full-length overflow. If I go with the pair of waveboxes, what would you recommend to control them with my pair of streams? Could I simply go with two extensions and have them controlled by the upcoming 7096, or do I still need to get one wavebox and one extension along with the 7096?

Thanks again!

- Eric

 

[Jar*Head]

You can go with 2 extension and have it controlled by the 7096 along with your stream pumps...

 

[SonsOfLeda]

I was hoping you'd say that! I love seeing things coming together for this project...

 

[Jar*Head]

You'll be happy with that combo... I wish i could use just 1 controller

 

[SonsOfLeda]

Another question for you... I just got done reading through the wavebox manual again and I read the part about placement. It recommends placing the wavebox(es) so that the wave goes along the longest side of the aquarium.

In my case, I was planning on mounting them in the external overflow box (flanking the overflow itself), giving the wave 45 7/8" of length (from front to back - internal dimensions). How much of a wave can I expect with this kind of placement?

How much of a difference would it make if I mounted them on one of the sides in another external box, giving them 57 1/2" to work with? Would that work at all with the full-length overflow being on the back wall still?

Which configuration would you recommend?

Also, I read that you recommend 19" of clearance in front of the box for a wave to be created. Does this mean 19" of clearance in front of the entire wall they're mounted on or 19" in front of the wavebox outlets themselves?

 

[Jar*Head]

Hello, do you happen to have the drawing of your tank design so i have an idea of how you want the wave box and overflow box...

 

[SonsOfLeda]

I'm not on my computer now, but I'm picturing something close to Dudester's new 450 with the overflow on one side (his is on the right side I believe, mine'd be on the back).

If you're still not picturing it, I'll put together a Google SketchUp later on this evening that will clear it up.

 

[Jar*Head]

Mike (Dudester) tank is peninsula style. You can put an external wavebox in the back flow toward the front and create a front to back wave motion. My old 240g cube (48x48) have 2 tunze wave boxes and it rock up to 3".

I would place each wavebox close to the corner as possible for better result.

 

[SonsOfLeda]

Opposite corners on the back wall or off to the side next to each other on the back wall?

 

[Jar*Head]

On the back wall one at each corner facing the front.

 

[SonsOfLeda]

Here's a SketchUp I put together that includes the preliminary design for the overflow/wavebox housing (minus any of the holes for drains/returns/outputs of waveboxes):

When I'm designing the housing for the wavebox, do I want to go with internal dimensions that pretty much mirror the dimensions of the box? Right now they're at 5"x4.5"x12" (internal). If that's not correct, what should they be?

Also, do you have any idea if BeanAnimal's overflow design will work in this case? If not, what do you recommend?

Thanks much!

 

[Jar*Head]

I can't see your picture while at work. You can email it to me using JPEG format.

steven.ngo@usmc.mil

 

[SonsOfLeda]

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