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greg65
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Mongoose,
The stand will be able to hold an SUV.........just incase Art changes his mind about this tank
The "grey stuff" is 1 1/4" MDF covered in plastic laminate..........and actually, its blue .
i would guess the completed stand , with facade, will weigh in at about 500 lbs.
-greg-
BTW....Nice avatar
:eek2:
The stand will be able to hold an SUV.........just incase Art changes his mind about this tank
The "grey stuff" is 1 1/4" MDF covered in plastic laminate..........and actually, its blue .
i would guess the completed stand , with facade, will weigh in at about 500 lbs.
-greg-
BTW....Nice avatar
:eek2: Greg,
thanks for the reply... i am re-thinking my 3 oceanic wood stands in favor of one continuous metal stand like the one you built with levelers and a cabinet doors along the length...
180 x 180 x 120 = 6x2 x 6x2 x 4x2 = 16'long x 2' wide with maybe a closet at one end to house the 6' skimmer...
joe
ps too bad you are in cali..... or id ask you to spec it !!
thanks for the reply... i am re-thinking my 3 oceanic wood stands in favor of one continuous metal stand like the one you built with levelers and a cabinet doors along the length...
180 x 180 x 120 = 6x2 x 6x2 x 4x2 = 16'long x 2' wide with maybe a closet at one end to house the 6' skimmer...
joe
ps too bad you are in cali..... or id ask you to spec it !!
reefboy1
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Greg,
Thanks for posting pics of that awesome stand. I can't wait to see it in person.
The tank has arrived (amazingly on-time) and I'm not nearly ready to uncrate it. So right now there's a giant crate sitting in my driveway
Here's a pic of the hole that Greg and Jeff Littlefield cut into my tile floor underneath where the stand will sit. We were happy to find 2x10 joists on a beefy cement beam down there. The plumbing and 6" ventilation ducts will run through this big hole:
Here's a pic of the Panasonic inline fan that will be installed under the house. This fan will pull air out of the canopy area via a 6" pvc duct and vent it to the outside. It's 240cfm and very quiet. Another similar fan will pull air from the crawlspace and push it into to the area under the tank (through a carbon filter). This will force the air under the tank to move up into the canopy area via the pillars on each side and hopefully keep both area's cool. These fans can replace the total air volume in less than a minute.
Thanks for posting pics of that awesome stand. I can't wait to see it in person.
The tank has arrived (amazingly on-time) and I'm not nearly ready to uncrate it. So right now there's a giant crate sitting in my driveway
Here's a pic of the hole that Greg and Jeff Littlefield cut into my tile floor underneath where the stand will sit. We were happy to find 2x10 joists on a beefy cement beam down there. The plumbing and 6" ventilation ducts will run through this big hole:
Here's a pic of the Panasonic inline fan that will be installed under the house. This fan will pull air out of the canopy area via a 6" pvc duct and vent it to the outside. It's 240cfm and very quiet. Another similar fan will pull air from the crawlspace and push it into to the area under the tank (through a carbon filter). This will force the air under the tank to move up into the canopy area via the pillars on each side and hopefully keep both area's cool. These fans can replace the total air volume in less than a minute.
pch90265
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Art,
I see that you haven't put anything between the tile and the nickle-plated feet to distribute the load [yet?] Are you concerned about 3000+ lbs cranking the five tiles the tank rests on? Or, is there going to be a sheet of ply, or MDF, etc under the stand?
Your drywall work looks incredible. Nice touch. Would it be correct to assume there will be open space between the top of the tank and the bottom of the drywall? Are you planning to hang Spacelight style reflectors up there?
--Sean--
I see that you haven't put anything between the tile and the nickle-plated feet to distribute the load [yet?] Are you concerned about 3000+ lbs cranking the five tiles the tank rests on? Or, is there going to be a sheet of ply, or MDF, etc under the stand?
Your drywall work looks incredible. Nice touch. Would it be correct to assume there will be open space between the top of the tank and the bottom of the drywall? Are you planning to hang Spacelight style reflectors up there?
--Sean--
reefboy1
Premium Member
Sean,
Yes, I am concerned about the point source loading on the tile. Greg and I have mulled over how to best distribute that load. A sheet of plywood or MDF is a good possibility.
Thanks for the comments on the drywall - it does look great. We're hoping it'll give the tank a very built in look. There will not be an open area over the tank. The space between the tank and the drywall will be enclosed with cabinetry. The lights will hang from the ceiling on DIY frames that I can manually raise when I need to work over the tank.
Art
Yes, I am concerned about the point source loading on the tile. Greg and I have mulled over how to best distribute that load. A sheet of plywood or MDF is a good possibility.
Thanks for the comments on the drywall - it does look great. We're hoping it'll give the tank a very built in look. There will not be an open area over the tank. The space between the tank and the drywall will be enclosed with cabinetry. The lights will hang from the ceiling on DIY frames that I can manually raise when I need to work over the tank.
Art
greg65
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Ill answer for Art while he's away on a dive trip,
As an update, the tank has arrived...................but thats about it. We will be getting into the plumbing etc. upon Art's return home.
The compartments are the overflows, and the housings for the tunze streams. The area between them is for the tunze wave box.
This is going to be a reef.....primarily sps.....not a F/O.
-Greg-
As an update, the tank has arrived...................but thats about it. We will be getting into the plumbing etc. upon Art's return home.
The compartments are the overflows, and the housings for the tunze streams. The area between them is for the tunze wave box.
This is going to be a reef.....primarily sps.....not a F/O.
-Greg-
Great project, most intersting one in months.
As for plumbing, I would run something through your crawl space that is oversized just to make sure you never have to deal with it again, like 1.5"-2" based on the 1200 gph anticipated flow. Personally, I would run 1.5" from the sump to the tank and 2" from the tank to the sump. This will eliminate much of the head loss you might otherwise encounter on that long of a run. Check the head loss calcs on that becuase I am not certain on that given the amount of water you have to push to get back to the tank.
The point source loads were the only thing that jumped out at me, but I would just try and add more of them rather than use plywood or something like that, especially since you will be holding more than two tons (about the same as a small SUV, huh?)
As for the racks, you might try and PM Aged Salt (Bob) either here or over at www.zeovit.com since I think he did the same thing.
I love the Tunze compartment/wavebox idea, makes me want to design another tank.
I know you already have the H&S, but just want to tell you I love my Deltec AP1003. Aged Salt has the AP1004. Support and CS on the Deltec's has been second to none.
What Calcium Reactor are you considering? The Schuran unit I am using has been great, very easy to change media.
Do you have any ventalation for the sump room planned? If not, you might want to put an exhaust fan in there controlled by a dehumidistat to control humidity.
Looks like a fun project. Keep us posted.
As for plumbing, I would run something through your crawl space that is oversized just to make sure you never have to deal with it again, like 1.5"-2" based on the 1200 gph anticipated flow. Personally, I would run 1.5" from the sump to the tank and 2" from the tank to the sump. This will eliminate much of the head loss you might otherwise encounter on that long of a run. Check the head loss calcs on that becuase I am not certain on that given the amount of water you have to push to get back to the tank.
The point source loads were the only thing that jumped out at me, but I would just try and add more of them rather than use plywood or something like that, especially since you will be holding more than two tons (about the same as a small SUV, huh?)
As for the racks, you might try and PM Aged Salt (Bob) either here or over at www.zeovit.com since I think he did the same thing.
I love the Tunze compartment/wavebox idea, makes me want to design another tank.
I know you already have the H&S, but just want to tell you I love my Deltec AP1003. Aged Salt has the AP1004. Support and CS on the Deltec's has been second to none.
What Calcium Reactor are you considering? The Schuran unit I am using has been great, very easy to change media.
Do you have any ventalation for the sump room planned? If not, you might want to put an exhaust fan in there controlled by a dehumidistat to control humidity.
Looks like a fun project. Keep us posted.
TheCoralReef731
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wow
reefboy1
Premium Member
Hi all,
Sorry for the lack of updates, but as Greg mentioned I've been away on scuba trip in the Bahamas for the passed few weeks.
The smallest Tunze compartment is roughly 5" x 7.5" and the port for the nozzle is 2.5". I hope the Tunze fits in there.
Thanks so much. I find it interesting as well.
I'm using 2" flex PVC for all 3 runs under the house. 2 runs for the drains and 1 for the return.
Yep, this is something that we still needs to be resolved. Plywood is a good idea...
I have seen Bob's pics and Greg has already tried this out in his tank. It's a great idea and I can't wait until I hit that part of the project. Thanks for the link.
I have the Schuran Jetstream 1 with their large size media. I can't wait to install it. What are you using to feed your reactor? I've heard that many are using a perulistic pump for best results. My original plan was to just tee off the return pump and control the flow with a 1/2" gatevalve...
I will probably cut a hole in the wall and put an exhaust fan in there eventually. Right now I have a window fan in the garage on a timer and I keep the door to the sump room open to allow ventilation - somewhat lame, but it does the job.
Thanks again for the comments and feedback. I'll post new pics as soon as I make progess (wish I was still diving though...)
Art
Sorry for the lack of updates, but as Greg mentioned I've been away on scuba trip in the Bahamas for the passed few weeks.
inerratum said:
The smallest Tunze compartment is roughly 5" x 7.5" and the port for the nozzle is 2.5". I hope the Tunze fits in there.
VegasMike said:
Thanks so much. I find it interesting as well.
VegasMike said:
I'm using 2" flex PVC for all 3 runs under the house. 2 runs for the drains and 1 for the return.
VegasMike said:The point source loads were the only thing that jumped out at me, but I would just try and add more of them rather than use plywood or something like that, especially since you will be holding more than two tons (about the same as a small SUV, huh?)
Yep, this is something that we still needs to be resolved. Plywood is a good idea...
VegasMike said:
I have seen Bob's pics and Greg has already tried this out in his tank. It's a great idea and I can't wait until I hit that part of the project. Thanks for the link.
VegasMike said:
I have the Schuran Jetstream 1 with their large size media. I can't wait to install it. What are you using to feed your reactor? I've heard that many are using a perulistic pump for best results. My original plan was to just tee off the return pump and control the flow with a 1/2" gatevalve...
VegasMike said:
I will probably cut a hole in the wall and put an exhaust fan in there eventually. Right now I have a window fan in the garage on a timer and I keep the door to the sump room open to allow ventilation - somewhat lame, but it does the job.
Thanks again for the comments and feedback. I'll post new pics as soon as I make progess (wish I was still diving though...)
Art
Fliger
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Make sure you post pix of the dive trip as well. ;-)
I am setting up the same reactor next week, peri pump gets here tmw. I asked a couple people via PM who are running them with powerheads if they were doing OK and both said they would rather have a peri pump.
Can't wait to see what skimmer you get. I'm completely overjoyed with my A300 3x1260.
I am setting up the same reactor next week, peri pump gets here tmw. I asked a couple people via PM who are running them with powerheads if they were doing OK and both said they would rather have a peri pump.
Can't wait to see what skimmer you get. I'm completely overjoyed with my A300 3x1260.
On systems as large as ours and the Jetsream 1 in particular, the 50ml suggested flow rate through the unit is hard to regulate and too high for most periastolic pumps. Mine is currently fed by the return pump with a 3/8" gate valve. I find that I have to open the valve a 1/4 of a turn every few days to keep the flow above the 50ml rate. That being said, my diaphragm pump from AquaticEco should be here on Friday. The 50ml per minute rate equates to around 19 gpd if my math was right and the pump I ordered would do 30 gpd with the ability to adjust the flow downward from there. Stability is the key anyway, so the pump should give me that.
If you end up needing that dehumidistat, I found mine at www.hydroharrys.com. It also has a thermastat so that the fan will come on above any temp or humidity level that I set. All you do is plug the unit into a normal wall socket and plug the fan into the unit. No real installation work to do other than installing the fan.
Can't wait to see the progress.
If you end up needing that dehumidistat, I found mine at www.hydroharrys.com. It also has a thermastat so that the fan will come on above any temp or humidity level that I set. All you do is plug the unit into a normal wall socket and plug the fan into the unit. No real installation work to do other than installing the fan.
Can't wait to see the progress.
Fliger
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Not to hijack - but I've heard from many users than 50ml/min is a bare minimum on the JS1. Most people run it much higher. I'm sure you've read this thread. Heck, you've probably posted on in.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397189
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397189
