~450G Display (~1000G system) documentary starting
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kwl1763
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Quick question for you guys. The drains of the tank will be roughly 16" above the level of the top sump. But the sump is literally across the room so it will be like a 15ft horizontal run. I could run it against the wall but I would like to run it to the floor then across then back up so it will be out of the way.
Hopefully that makes sense. Will I run into any issues going down and back up? I would guess not because the down the up would cause zero additional head pressure. Kind of like a closed loop causes none. Is this correct?
Hopefully that makes sense. Will I run into any issues going down and back up? I would guess not because the down the up would cause zero additional head pressure. Kind of like a closed loop causes none. Is this correct?
Roland Jacques
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that will be fine if you use the right size pipe for your flow
kwl1763
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Well I've got some outstanding news!
The tank will ship next week!!!
I'm super pumped. That means it will be here the week after next.
I actually got some work on the room done this weekend. Built the light rack and hung it with the bike pulley (totally stealing ideas from other people). I'll get some pics tonight or tommorow. Since the time changed and it is actually still light when I get home I'm going to get started on the "doghouse" for my chiller. I'm going to be putting it outside under my deck then running th cord and PVC through the wall to the fishroom. Hopefully I'll have that done this week. Then the plumbing, then some more live rock, etc, etc. plenty to do!
The tank will ship next week!!!
I'm super pumped. That means it will be here the week after next.
I actually got some work on the room done this weekend. Built the light rack and hung it with the bike pulley (totally stealing ideas from other people). I'll get some pics tonight or tommorow. Since the time changed and it is actually still light when I get home I'm going to get started on the "doghouse" for my chiller. I'm going to be putting it outside under my deck then running th cord and PVC through the wall to the fishroom. Hopefully I'll have that done this week. Then the plumbing, then some more live rock, etc, etc. plenty to do!
Roland Jacques
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the dog house, for your chiller you might want to make it big enough for 2 so when your wife finds out what you spent you'll have some where to go LOL. i live in my dog house
your shipping the tank? im sure it a good tank and all but if something happens in the shipping or something. their is great manufactures locally in your backyard even. it might save you some money next time.
your shipping the tank? im sure it a good tank and all but if something happens in the shipping or something. their is great manufactures locally in your backyard even. it might save you some money next time.
kwl1763
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That's a good idea Roland Fortunatly I'm honest with my wife and she knows how much it costs. She has her vices (clothes, furniture) and I have mine (golf, reefing, etc.) it works out! We're very fortunate and blessed in that we can afford to do our hobbies!
Roland please either post or PM me who you might suggest for the tank.
I checked with a couple local (or witin driving distance) and they were in the stratosphere on price (except for glasscages which I decided against for quality issues). In the end I narrowed it down to two Canadian companies based on quality first and price second but it's still a very important second! I got quotes from 8 different companies.
Fortunatly I'm honest with my wife and she knows how much it costs. She has her vices (clothes, furniture) and I have mine (golf, reefing, etc.) it works out! We're very fortunate and blessed in that we can afford to do our hobbies!Roland please either post or PM me who you might suggest for the tank.
I checked with a couple local (or witin driving distance) and they were in the stratosphere on price (except for glasscages which I decided against for quality issues). In the end I narrowed it down to two Canadian companies based on quality first and price second but it's still a very important second! I got quotes from 8 different companies.
Roland Jacques
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7101320#post7101320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kwl1763
That's a good idea Roland
Brother, count your blessings. i usally tell my wife but i wait a few days, weeks, months, ok i have to work on that. i did pm you.
TCU Reefer
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Great news on the tank being shipped Keith. I'm excited for you. Keep us posted.
kwl1763
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So here is what I spent my Saturday (well after a round of golf that is) doing.
It's made out of 1/8" L bracket aluminum with 3/16" wide 1/4" grab rivets. That was my first experience with rivets and I like them! Works brilliantly
With the bike rack (a great deal by the way at $25 from Target) the way it says to do it is stupid because it would make raising and lowering it a two person job as they have one string going through the whole contraption. Anyway I broke the rules and hooked one string to each side so I ran them both out. Now I can lift up and down with ease and it stays level! It's a little hard to see in the pic.
And I still find it odd that the fish have the best view in the basement!
Oh well!!! I am going to build a shelf up high for the ballasts this week and a chiller housing and hope I can get those both done by Saturday. I'd say chances are slim but I'm optimistic
It's made out of 1/8" L bracket aluminum with 3/16" wide 1/4" grab rivets. That was my first experience with rivets and I like them! Works brilliantly
With the bike rack (a great deal by the way at $25 from Target) the way it says to do it is stupid because it would make raising and lowering it a two person job as they have one string going through the whole contraption. Anyway I broke the rules and hooked one string to each side so I ran them both out. Now I can lift up and down with ease and it stays level! It's a little hard to see in the pic.
And I still find it odd that the fish have the best view in the basement!
Oh well!!! I am going to build a shelf up high for the ballasts this week and a chiller housing and hope I can get those both done by Saturday. I'd say chances are slim but I'm optimistic
ReefWaters
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Great job on the light rack! Very nice. Which Luminarc's are those? Also, are you going to run just MH or will you have any fluorescent supplements?
Looking Good.
Looking Good.
kwl1763
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Those are the Lumen-Max reflectors. I have 2 DE 250W PFOs in between them.
I'm really really torn on the lighting.
My original idea was to get some 20k XM DE bulbs and run 10k XMs SE in the Lumenarcs and then have 4 5 ft actinic VHOs doing the coloring.
I really really like the way the new Reeflux 10k bulbs look though! The problem is the PAR is very significantly lower then the XM.
So I think I could run the 10k reeflux and the 20k DE with no VHOs and would be real nice color wise. but not so great PAR wise.
Other option is to do what I originally planned and forget the reeflux.
Other option would be to run the Reeflux then put 10k XMs in the 250DE and double up on the actinics. This would get me my lost PAR but not sure on the looks.
Opinions?
I'm really really torn on the lighting.
My original idea was to get some 20k XM DE bulbs and run 10k XMs SE in the Lumenarcs and then have 4 5 ft actinic VHOs doing the coloring.
I really really like the way the new Reeflux 10k bulbs look though! The problem is the PAR is very significantly lower then the XM.
So I think I could run the 10k reeflux and the 20k DE with no VHOs and would be real nice color wise. but not so great PAR wise.
Other option is to do what I originally planned and forget the reeflux.
Other option would be to run the Reeflux then put 10k XMs in the 250DE and double up on the actinics. This would get me my lost PAR but not sure on the looks.
Opinions?
Roland Jacques
Premium Member
That fixture looks awesome.
Do you like the color of the XM10k SE bulbs? They look a bit yellow to me. But with the 03 tubes it not that much deference. Their 20k SE bulb looks perfect to me. I have never seen their DE in action. It looks like you have it covered ether way. Are your 03s going to be mounted to your light fixture? I find that if the 03 tubes are up high they donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t help enough with the color. for what thats worth
Do you like the color of the XM10k SE bulbs? They look a bit yellow to me. But with the 03 tubes it not that much deference. Their 20k SE bulb looks perfect to me. I have never seen their DE in action. It looks like you have it covered ether way. Are your 03s going to be mounted to your light fixture? I find that if the 03 tubes are up high they donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t help enough with the color. for what thats worth
kwl1763
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Ya I'm going to do something else so the VHOs if I end up going that route are close to the water! Yet another thing to design! I have the light rack like I do because I'm going to start the bulbs off at 15" and then every 6 months move them down 3" I should be able to get 2 years easy out of the bulbs that way! Yet another reason I probably want the higher PAR.
Roland Jacques
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good idea,
ReefWaters
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I run a single 250W Hamilton 14K and 150w of VHO 03 Actinics. I know that is a LOT less total wattage and bulb count than you are dealing with but I love the color Ive got. Just my opinion.
Roland Jacques
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Canââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t you have your pod fuge mounted higher than the tank so it overflows straight into the tank? Keeps your pods out of the pump, they might get dizzy. :rollface:
You might want to consider the Hagen 901 steam mod for flow very simple to mod. Out flows all the tunze's and probably the Vortech also and at $60 plus mods parts $10 you cant beat the price. $70 12,000gph plus.
where did you get the tubs for $50? that is a deal.
My bad, i was reading the first page as the last. that was wied. now i feel dizzy
You might want to consider the Hagen 901 steam mod for flow very simple to mod. Out flows all the tunze's and probably the Vortech also and at $60 plus mods parts $10 you cant beat the price. $70 12,000gph plus.
where did you get the tubs for $50? that is a deal.
My bad, i was reading the first page as the last. that was wied. now i feel dizzy
