5000g+ breeding system build

Purchasing a building in town is a good idea. It least if the corals/fish don't work out you are building equity in real estate. It could also act as storefront/wholesale distribution center, etc. Good Luck! You only live once, why waste it daydreaming?!
 
Are you planning on having employees as well? I didn't see it mentioned, and that's a whole lot of water/fish for one person to take care of, even on a full-time basis. Lots of potential for cross-contamination, etc.
 
The building will be in town either way. As for employees.... I will burn that bridge when I get there and even then only if there is enough market stability to support it. Though looking at it from another point it would probably be best for me to just have the building made that way I can still build cabinets on the side for extra $$. even though there is probably much more profitability in cabinets, it's just not what i want to do.
 
Josh,
Plan the building as if there wouldn´t be fish/corals in there or with them but think of a way to easily make the room useful for other business.
I´m planning one room from my house to be a fish room but am trying not to change everything planned before the "fever". If things don´t go well I´ll have a room with a sink and the greatest amount of electricity outputs in the house. :) And my wife will still like me ! :D

Anderson.
 
Well to my good fortune the entire lower floor of the building will be 3000 feet of open space on a cement floor. My living quarters will be directly above and as for the wife.... I havn't had to deal with that for a few years now. How ever I am really hoping this is somthing I will be able to get my kids into. And man I wish the phone would quit ringing so I can finish this post. Anyway... as I was saying I would love to be able to get my kids interested in something like this and who knows perhaps some day they will be able to use this somehow.

On another note a lfs owner that i regularly deal with would like to rent some shop space for a freshwater breeding setup which is pretty cool. I don't really know what all he has in mind but I am sure this is bound to be interesting.
 
Since your looking at doing new construction, have floor drains put in ;) You want them to have some serious capacity and the floor sloped so that any spilled water (there will be lots ;) ) will run right in. Also epoxy coat the floor to seal it. If you end up doing a preexisting structure, still look into doing some type of floor drains and building up the floor to slope into them. You'll be glad you did ;)
 
Yeah, i had considered the possibility of springing a leak, and the possiblity of my auto top off actually working and the reality of 1000 gallons of water draining onto the floor right beside that extension cord i had accidentally left out the night before. so umm... yeah i will definately have drains. :D
 
These numbers have my head spinning :eek1: I need to move to Kansas :D I am an electrical contractor, have been in and around residential construction for 34 years. As a very very basic and highly generalized rule of thumb it costs about $100 a foot to build a modest home, and that does not include the property. Even going with a pre-fab steel structure how can you possibly do it for $10? The electrical alone will run $6-$8 a foot, maybe 40-45 $K. Plumbing, finish, appliances, cabinets???? We spent $15K just remodeling our kitchen and it's not like we have a million dollar home. I am very confused :confused:
 
well you can save a lot of money when you do things your self. I had the building quoted at 52,000. The only electrical i need to have done is have the main breaker box installed ($300) after that Ican take over... and have you ever heard of a company called American Insulated Wire, It's a company of Leviton. Well... Guess what.... That was my place of employment for 3 1/2 years. Very frequently we would get lengths of wire that were less than 250 feet (which was the minimum we could send to customers) and they would just scrap the length of wire. So... I stared asking if i could have some of them and sure enough i have probably 4000 feet of 12/2 w/g sitting in my garage and all the extension cord you could ever dream of... so needless to say i have electrical pretty well covered. The slab i was quoted i think 8k or pretty close and I will already have the plumbing laid for them to pour over. As far as cabinets go.... I already have all the things i will ever need to do that. probably 1000 dollars in material and two weeks worth of labor. Sheet rock, insulation, and plumbing I can get at about 52% of retal cost as I am good friends with a local lumber store owner. He still owes me a couple favors. The only thing I didn't account for was the central air so add another $5000 dollars for ducting and the unit. And then add another $3000 dollars for my first two 500 gallon setups (hardware only of course)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8956365#post8956365 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xfury
i have probably 4000 feet of 12/2 w/g sitting in my garage and all the extension cord you could ever dream of.......................................................................................................................Sheet rock, insulation, and plumbing I can get at about 52% of retal cost as I am good friends with a local lumber store owner.

You'll want to run a third wire for ground, and use GFCI receptacles, use outdoor water resistant ones at that. I'd also advise forgetting about the sheetrock and going with plywood skin and putting FRP over that. Than you will have wash and wear walls that you can take a hose too ;)
 
I don't think you'll need marine grade ply for walls, regular exterior grade should be fine. That's how our walls are. The FRP over the ply keeps the ply from getting wet, so that's not a major worry.
 
Just to add a little background I spent four years designing houses and aided in constructing 4 of 10 that were actually built. My wood working skills are something to make the ol' timers proud. I'll have to find pictures of some of the cabients I have made amongst other things. I have duplicated some 12000 dollar cabinets for about 1/3 ish my cost and that is with better materilas. My stick welding is ugly but the welds don't break.

Wow... why couldn't I think of all this when i was writing my resume?...
 
Here's a pic of when we were still setting the lab up. Give's you an idea of how the FRP works, also the drop ceiling has vinyl clad panels instead of the regular stuff ;)

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I can let loose with a fire hose in there and it wouldn't hurt anything :D
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8958189#post8958189 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xfury
It looks like that room is 4 feet tall... i dunno it's just a weird optical illusion i guess.

I took that picture with my cellphone, looking down from the room our headtank is in. Make's for a funky vantage point for the picture :D
 
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